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Ford Focus 1,5 Ecoboost ST-Line: The paintbrush of sportiness

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Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost ST-Line: The paintbrush of sportinessThe core theme of the Ford Focus is probably continuous improvement. The ST-Line equipment series gives the comparatively compact model a lively appearance - in a thematic approach to the race-proven sports model ST. However, the focus remains an attentive fulfillment of everyday mobility needs. Above all the exact chassis, which can be brought by almost nothing from the rest, represents a credible basis for joyful dangling. Like the 1.5-liter turbo-benzine, which can be seen as a kind of ideal motorization. He delivers a lot of driving fun, but still remains clear at the level of reason.

It is worth mentioning that some criticism from the past has been successfully worked through. The Mickey Mouse display was replaced by a decent display on the center console, improving the voice control over previous times.

Remarkable is the sensitive kind of optical dynamization of the appearance within the framework of the ST-Line with black light-alloy rims. There is nothing brutal and yet you can see immediately, I come.


Specifications Ford Focus 1,5 Ecoboost ST-Line

Price € 25.100, - (NoVA 7%).
Drive 4-cylinder DI-Turbo-Benziner, 1.499 ccm, 110 kW (150 hp), 240 Nm of torque, front-wheel drive.
Dimensions 5 seats, L / W / H 4.360 / 1.823 / 1.471 mm, weight 1,325 kg, payload 575 kg.
Driving performance 0-100 km / h 8.9 sec, peak 210 km / h, standard consumption 7.0 / 4.6 / 5.5 l / 100 km. CO2 127 g / km.
Test consumption 8.2 l / 100 km.

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Re: Ford Focus 1,5 Ecoboost ST-Line: The paintbrush of sportiness

I think the Ford Focus is a nice design. Their performance versions are pretty good, too. So why are Focus sales down nearly 20% YTD?
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Re: Ford Focus 1,5 Ecoboost ST-Line: The paintbrush of sportiness

Throwing this in, this is a quick review from Top Gear Philippines.


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The biggest news is the addition of a turbocharged gasoline engine, beating the Civic to it by nearly six months. The 1.5-liter four-cylinder motor delivers 178hp, which is about what you’d expect from a normally aspirated 2.0-liter mill these days. That’s already generous for a compact car, but what really delivers a punch is the torque. There’s 240Nm, all of it available just off idle at 1,500 rpm.

You might be skeptical about whether a turbo engine can deliver the proper experience for a personal/family hatchback such as the Focus.*After all, such powerplants were known for slow response and on/off behavior when it comes to power. Not this one. Ford has been honing its expertise with the EcoBoost engine family, and has successfully replicated the feel of a larger normally aspirated mill while aiming to deliver better fuel efficiency.
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The four-banger is mated to a six-speed automatic transmission that is likewise smooth and responsive,*particularly when compared with the old dual-clutch gearbox
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Read More: http://www.topgear.com.ph/drives/rev...t-a25-20161106


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I think the Ford Focus is a nice design. Their performance versions are pretty good, too. So why are Focus sales down nearly 20% YTD?
what I've read most-often
-- the PowerShift/DCT
my personal gripe (never having driven one, just sat in)
-- imho-terrible interior (lack of) room in EVERY seat other than the driver's


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...1.5-liter four-cylinder motor delivers 178hp, which is about what you’d expect from a normally aspirated 2.0-liter mill these days...
I don't have hard data handy BUT
afaik a naturally-aspirated 2 liter usually does not produce over ~150hp (ie 75hp-per-L)
looking-forward to 'corrections'

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Re: Ford Focus 1,5 Ecoboost ST-Line: The paintbrush of sportiness

Small cars benefit more from early torque, rather than peaky hp.

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I don't have hard data handy BUT
afaik a naturally-aspirated 2 liter usually does not produce over ~150hp (ie 75hp-per-L)
looking-forward to 'corrections'
A good percentage of naturally-aspirated 2.0-liter engines available today make at least over 150hp like the Civic's standard 158hp 2.0, Mazda 3's 155hp 2.0, Kia Forte EX's 164hp 2.0, and Subaru Impreza's 152hp 2.0.
The previous Cruze's base 1.8 made 138hp (76.66hp/L)

PS: The pre-facelift Mk3 Focus 2.0 sold in Asia-Pacific made an impressive 168hp@6600rpm from its 2.0 GDI engine compared to the North American version makes 160hp@6500rpm. Its PowerShift DCT wasn't impressive.

The old naturally-aspirated 2.0 was dropped in favor of the 178hp 1.5 EcoBoost.
It's odd that the Focus in North America never upgraded to the 1.5 EcoBoost which is also used on the Fusion and Escape.
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I think the Ford Focus is a nice design. Their performance versions are pretty good, too. So why are Focus sales down nearly 20% YTD?
It's the oldest of its competition in NA and on the smallest wheelbase. Which means less rear seat room as many who buy the sedan actually use the rear seat. New Civic really raised the bar for the compact car segment. The space of a midsize in a larger compact car package and price.



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I think the Ford Focus is a nice design. Their performance versions are pretty good, too. So why are Focus sales down nearly 20% YTD?
Because it is cursed with the truly horrible DCT transmission where a normal auto would be a better choice.
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Re: Ford Focus 1,5 Ecoboost ST-Line: The paintbrush of sportiness

Besides the Powershite transmission being a thorn in its side, Ford North America has reverted to its old ways and since its launch in 2011 slowly taken away features here and there. But have not offered any new inviting features. Plus dumb decisions to offer the great 1.0l EcoBoost engine but market it as the budget alternative by not allowing a 1.0EB consumer any sporty (which the engine character is) bits, or next to zero add on options, and only in the sedan etc etc etc. From my seat it looks like a sabotage mission to push market consumers away from wanting the bloody car at all.

Just compare at how Ford of Europe has each year added this and that to keep consumer interest, such as the sporty Red & Black Editions on the Trend (SE) spec level, and now the ST-Line spec. They got rid of the dual dry clutch Powershite transmission. You know common sense things to do to a cars life span to sell the **** thing and make consumers want to buy the **** thing.
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It's the oldest of its competition in NA and on the smallest wheelbase. Which means less rear seat room as many who buy the sedan actually use the rear seat. New Civic really raised the bar for the compact car segment. The space of a midsize in a larger compact car package and price.



I still say Ford N.A. could make the rear passenger area in the Focus the size of the Grand Canyon and it still would not get anywhere near the sales numbers of the Civic or Corolla. Yes it could use more cabin space, but the Focus IMO consumer is not looking for what the Honda and Toyota customer is looking for. The Focus is known for its fun driving and good looks, strong engineering etc. It is not a one size looking to appease to everyone type of character car, and hope it never is made into that.

Face it, in the USA and Canada, Honda and Toyota are the go to cars in both compact and mid-size class for the everyday appliance driving consumer. And Ford making a copy of their stuff ain't gonna make a spit of difference.

Ford N.A. appears to have no desire to add to their cars life cycle, instead they slowly detract stuff from in hopes of squeezing out a few more pennies. To me it is baffling, but it is what it is.

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