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1931Chevy
12-21-2007, 06:09 PM
2009 Fusion Spied: Take Back America
http://photo.ringo.com/246/246620136O541030520.jpg
The spy photographers at KGP have come up with a set of revealing images, showing Fordís updated Fusion sedan out for some testing near Dearborn, MI.

Though heavily camouflaged, this example is no longer a development mule, but rather a complete prototype. The new Fusion seems to be wearing a completely new grill and front fascia. The familiar three-bar grill is still in existence, but the spacing and orientation of the thick bars have been revised. The grill is also lower, and trapezoidal in shape, with a set of large air intakes, and a pair of fog lamps.

more at the link (http://news.windingroad.com/body-stylesmarket-segment/sedans/spied-a-first-look-at-fords-updated-fusion/)

2b2
12-26-2007, 11:45 PM
thought I'd add the June'07 "Rendered Speculation" picture from Autocosmos.com.mx
http://www.mx.autocosmos.com/contenidos/Galeria_General/normal/862735.jpg

and while checking up on things,
found that the original article is back up:
http://www.autocosmos.com.mx/noticias/expand.asp?id=15098
:eek:
now I know it was taken down (after every car blog&forum had linked/copied it)
my questions are:
when did Autocosmos restore it?
&
does this mean Ford doesn't mind anymore (ie official info is forth-coming)?

SobeSVT
12-27-2007, 04:49 AM
That was no rendered speculation at all. ;)

Logans Run
12-27-2007, 12:36 PM
This looks to be a good refresh of the Fusion.
If this will be hitting the dealer lots a year from now, when should we expect the switchover to the newer platform?
Is it still feasable that we will have the refresh in Dec 2008, and the new platform Fusion less than 2 years later, in Sept 2010?

zanadude
12-28-2007, 11:08 AM
Next year's update is just the refresh. It'll join the Mondeo on the EUCDII chassis (I think) a couple years later.

escapen
01-15-2008, 04:48 PM
when is this car coming to the show place? Detriot, NYC?

2b2
01-15-2008, 04:56 PM
^^well, the Milan seems to be the least changed & I hope to see that in Chicago (traditional Merc debut show
... & think NYC has a tradition with Lincoln debuts)
Imho it'd be 'nice' for Milan to have Chicago to itself! but ...uhh... don't expect that happening :(
(there isn't any other major or up'n'coming autoshow in that timeframe is there?)

edit: IF the Fusion gets a new model cough*SHO3.5GT*cough wouldn't it deserve a separate spotlight?
...'course Milan could get the engine too...

edit2/!
just came across some camo pix caught recently by NOS2006 @ C&G (http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21947&hl=)
altho the pix are dim & blurry, the roof including the rear window(!) look a bit diff. to me - almost Interceptor-ish
(disclaimer: you might have to register to see them, dunno)

escapen
01-16-2008, 10:35 AM
ok so were think the '09 fusion for chicago now? prob fusion and milan for chicago and the new updated mkz for NYC. id imagine a production MKT for eith LA or Detriot next year

igor
01-16-2008, 10:54 AM
ok so were think the '09 fusion for chicago now? prob fusion and milan for chicago and the new updated mkz for NYC. id imagine a production MKT for eith LA or Detriot next yearI will lwet you all know when I find out.

Igor

2b2
01-23-2008, 07:39 PM
ok so were think the '09 fusion for chicago now? prob fusion and milan for chicago and the new updated mkz for NYC. id imagine a production MKT for eith LA or Detriot next year


this is probably crazy >8-]
but in thinking about 'another show' & coming across new Orion pix (link) (http://www.fordaustraliaforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=246040#post246040)
AND seeing that the Melbourne Autoshow is the very end of Feb (btwn Chicago & NYC afaik)...

...wouldn't it be cool if Ford intro'ed the Fusion in Australia?!?
(besides freaking our Aussie fellow-Ford-fans out completely ;)
& countering the rumored spotlight-stealing Holden whatever? http://home.surfree.com/~pauld/kewl.gif
wouldn't it also call attention to the whole global thing and OneFord thing? http://home.surfree.com/~pauld/unsure.gif
AND kinda create a 2for1 - with double exposure in Au & in NYC? http://home.surfree.com/~pauld/biggrin.gif)
((even 3for1 with people in Chicago going, "Where's the Fusion?" :D))

igor
01-24-2008, 06:46 AM
^^^ AUS gets the Mondeo - this would not make sense.. besides for global media attention, EU and US shows cannot be beat - Ford would waste resources.

I predict the Fusion and Milan will be in New York, and MKZ in LA

Igor

baggs32
01-24-2008, 09:18 AM
^^^ AUS gets the Mondeo - this would not make sense.. besides for global media attention, EU and US shows cannot be beat - Ford would waste resources.

I predict the Fusion and Milan will be in New York, and MKZ in LA

Igor

Isn't the LA show in November? Wouldn't the '09 MKZ be on the lots for sale by then? Or did I miss something and the MKZ will be new for '10 instead?

igor
01-24-2008, 11:08 AM
Isn't the LA show in November? Wouldn't the '09 MKZ be on the lots for sale by then? Or did I miss something and the MKZ will be new for '10 instead?
while Ford and Mercury models will sontinue to bve introduced close to one another, Lincoln models might get as much as 12-15 motnhs gap between their Ford counterpart. See for example the Flex and MKT - we are 11 months after the Flex production reveal, and 3 months before the Flex production start, and the MKT is still just a "concept." Alternatively, the MKS starts production in 4 months, but the new Taurus is about 1 year away.

Likewise, the facelifted MKZ will probably not be introduced together with the Fusion/Milan duo. I assume the Fusion/Milan will be in New York, because Ford has a big media preview for New York (and no preview for Chicago), but it is possible they will not show the new Fusion until LA 2008 - just 6 weeks before production begins.

Igor

2b2
01-24-2008, 01:30 PM
^^^ AUS gets the Mondeo - this would not make sense.. besides for global media attention, EU and US shows cannot be beat - Ford would waste resources...


well, that AU suggestion was kinda tongue-in-cheek ;)


while Ford and Mercury models will sontinue to bve introduced close to one another, Lincoln models might get as much as 12-15 months gap between their Ford counterpart. See for example the Flex and MKT - we are 11 months after the Flex production reveal, and 3 months before the Flex production start, and the MKT is still just a "concept." Alternatively, the MKS starts production in 4 months, but the new Taurus is about 1 year away.
Likewise, the facelifted MKZ will probably not be introduced together with the Fusion/Milan duo.
"I assume the Fusion/Milan will be in New York, because Ford has a big media preview for New York (and no preview for Chicago), but it is possible they will not show the new Fusion until LA 2008 - just 6 weeks before production begins."
vs
"I predict the Fusion and Milan will be in New York, and MKZ in LA"



Ummm... still deciding? or typo?

I'm all in favor of not doing everything in threes,
and specifically, 'allowing' the brands to intro separately,
with which-goes-first depending on the segement: Lincoln-first could indicate 'pre-eminence', Lincoln-last could say "we're taking extra time to make it perfect".
but this is the first I've heard about delaying one of them that much.
If the MKZ, could it have anything to do with switching it to the 3.7? (PowerShift/DSG??)
or cuz it already got a light MCE with its name change?
so
Quote:
Originally Posted by baggs32
Isn't the LA show in November? Wouldn't the '09 MKZ be on the lots for sale by then? Or did I miss something and the MKZ will be new for '10 instead?

^^^ ditto!?!
inquiring minds want to know :)

please keep trying to find out, Igor http://www.fomoconews.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

igor
01-25-2008, 06:09 AM
^^^ I think the chances of NY reveal are better, but Ford MIGHT keep the cards close until right before the production start.

at this point Ford refuses to say anything/

Igor

baggs32
01-25-2008, 10:27 AM
It's just unusual for them to not show all 3 at the same time which is why I asked. I agree with 2b2 that it would be a good change for them and they should differentiate the shared platform mates. It's just going to take those of us who have followed Ford over the years some time to get used to it I guess.

baggs32
01-25-2008, 10:31 AM
One other thing. MT just put this (http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_0803_2010_ford_mustang) on their home page today. What was particularly interesting to me was the quote below.

The EcoBoost engine, which is currently scheduled to debut in a performance version of the Fusion, could be the more fuel efficient alternative for Mustang in the long term. Depending on spec, the EcoBoost is capable of up to at least 415hp, and has the torque to match a regular V-8.


What does MT know, or what don't they know for that matter, and is this an SVT product maybe?

wingsnut
01-25-2008, 12:30 PM
It's just unusual for them to not show all 3 at the same time which is why I asked. I agree with 2b2 that it would be a good change for them and they should differentiate the shared platform mates. It's just going to take those of us who have followed Ford over the years some time to get used to it I guess.


Actually, it's business as usual.

2b2
01-25-2008, 01:05 PM
LeftLaneNews (http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercury-milan-future.html) has 3 spypix of camo'ed CD3's... that they're calling the '09 Milan
(^click^ for article & click-thru to huoooooge pix (~500k ea)(wish they'd have mejum-sized ones for us dial-upers))

Actually, there are 2 cars - first 2 imho&others is the MKZ (white spots on black car), the third -probably a Fusion(due to licenseplate in trunklid, black on white)- seems to me to have the usual greenhouse/rearwindow, unlike the C&G spyshot I posted about earlier.

Also note in the 2nd pic, as Igor did elsewhere, the prominent rear headrests,
indicating that they're adjustable.

MERCURYSABLE08
01-25-2008, 01:08 PM
I can't wait to see the '09 Milan! Hopefully it will be coming to Chicago.

Z0mg Seth
01-25-2008, 01:34 PM
LeftLaneNews (http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercury-milan-future.html) has 3 spypix of camo'ed CD3's... that they're calling the '09 Milan
(^click^ for article & click-thru to huoooooge pix (~500k ea)(wish they'd have mejum-sized ones for us dial-upers))

Actually, there are 2 cars - first 2 imho&others is the MKZ (white spots on black car), the third -probably a Fusion(due to licenseplate in trunklid, black on white)- seems to me to have the usual greenhouse/rearwindow, unlike the C&G spyshot I posted about earlier.

Also note in the 2nd pic, as Igor did elsewhere, the prominent rear headrests,
indicating that they're adjustable.


Unfortunatly, it looks as if Ford did not try to change the doors on the one that resembles the MKZ. Hopefully, the finished product will be significantly different to the Ford counterpart.

2b2
01-25-2008, 01:53 PM
^^ but doors/glass are rarely changed on MCE's - tho I've wondered about extending the sheetmetal up over the existing sideglass to change the beltline...


btw Seth, did you figure out PrintScreen and pix-hosting for a customized Flex, yet? or want/need instructions?

Z0mg Seth
01-25-2008, 02:44 PM
No, me needs some help lol. :D

2b2
01-25-2008, 04:34 PM
^^ Seth, ya gots a PM ;)

&
apparently the (one&only) BORG [link] (http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t20497.html) (well-known Lincoln fan(& customer!), bon vivant, & connected-with-insiders) has declared the spypix-cars ARE Milans :confused: :unsure: :blink: :twitch:

('course the BORG collective collectively is also known for their/its light-hearted sense of humor (those rascals) so...)


&
belated reply

I can't wait to see the '09 Milan! Hopefully it will be coming to Chicago.


ME TOO!!!, MERCURYSABLE08 :hyper:
you gonna take a drive over if it's there?
(sooo glad Chicago does webcams!)

RG59061
01-29-2008, 11:00 AM
Hey all...we have a new photo spied of the updated Fusion!

This one gives a much clearer view of the new, bigger, and revised grille.

Updated Fusion Grille (http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/january2008/fusion-1.jpg)
This picture is courtesy of my friends at Left Lane News.com and Property of Brenda Priddy & Co.

Here is the article (http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-fusion-future.html) that joins this photo and others;


http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/january2008/fusion.jpg
Ford is planning a significant revision to its Fusion for the 2010 model year. Like its platform-mate the Lincoln MKZ and Mercury Milan, the Fusion will see a number of key styling changes.

Most notably, the headlights have been reshaped, and there is extensive chrome detailing, similar to the headlights of the new Taurus or Focus.

The grille has also changed, with the chrome "bars" becoming thicker, and the overall height of the grille growing.

A heavily revised front bumper design reveals a more angular, trapezoidal low- center-grille, and bold new air-intakes are placed wideĖabove the front fog lamps.

Compared to a prototype spotted in December, the headlight units appear to be further refined, and much closer to production.

The Fusion was first introduced as a 2006 model, making the 2009 or 2010 model year an obvious time for an update. Past rumors suggested this revised car would be a 2009, but the latest reports suggest it might be a 2010. Stay tuned.

I am so eager to see how Ford is able to upgrade the personality and style of the Fusion. Especially now with the new Chevrolet Malibu. The Dodge Avenger and Chrysler Sebring don't even compete.

What I really want to see...is what Ford is able to do to the Interior. That is where the Fusion could really trump the Malibu and completely destroy even the emergency refreshed Avenger and Sebring. Lets all keep our fingers crossed on this one...because it is just looking better and better each time we get to see more.

As always...Stay Fabulous!
RG59061

2b2
01-29-2008, 08:10 PM
<duplicate posting>
@ BON (http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t20601.html)
they're saying the Fusion's intro date is Nov/Dec 2008 with major supplies showing up by Jan 2009
and
the reason for the late(r) date is they are/have making/made changes to the rear, esp. the tail lights shown in the AutoCosmos "rendered speculation"s
(tho that's a simplified version ;))

I guess that means it affects all 3 CD3's... ...or does it?

escapen
03-05-2008, 06:22 PM
January 29, 09:46am EST


From Leftlanenews:


Most notably, the headlights have been reshaped, and there is extensive chrome detailing, similar to the headlights of the new Taurus or Focus.

The grille has also changed, with the chrome "bars" becoming thicker, and the overall height of the grille growing.

A heavily revised front bumper design reveals a more angular, trapezoidal low- center-grille, and bold new air-intakes are placed wideĖabove the front fog lamps.

Compared to a prototype spotted in December, the headlight units appear to be further refined, and much closer to production.

The Fusion was first introduced as a 2006 model, making the 2009 or 2010 model year an obvious time for an update. Past rumors suggested this revised car would be a 2009, but the latest reports suggest it might be a 2010. Stay tuned.

Taillight confusion - Update

When we first ran this story, we published a second photo purportedly showing the new taillight design for the Fusion. We now believe that photo actually shows the new Lincoln MKZ. Hop over to our full report on the 2010 MKZ for more.

Link to Pic: http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plugins/iimage-gallery.php?idpost=6448&idg=1&idi=1

RG59061
03-05-2008, 09:25 PM
Sorry mate, but we have already had this article posted on the site when it debuted on Left Lane News...you can find it here (http://www.fomoconews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1621) where you can continue the discussion that already exists.

Thanks for the interest!
Stay Fabulous!
RG59061

2b2
03-07-2008, 12:02 AM
got a new/nother speculation http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/stirpot.gif (stirpot) prompted by
- an engine plant thread @ BON (http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21807&pid=317861&st=0&#entry317861), &
- my belief that Ford's on a major yearly kaizen* kick
so
imho the '09my Milan & Fusion will get the 3.0PIP v6**
even tho it'll be a very short model year for them
(tho some of those PIP's could get replaced by the 3.5 in the 2010my)
((&/but the MKZ will stay with the 3.5v6 until the new-look/when the MKS-EB intros))

* continuous improvement
** which might just be a 'goldilocks' engine in the long-term
in that
at resale/trade-in time when gas is over $5 per gallon,
even if the 3.5 is just as fuel efficient,
to the avg (ugh) consumer, that extra half liter will be a drawback :eek:

escapen
03-08-2008, 05:38 PM
got a new/nother speculation http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/stirpot.gif (stirpot) prompted by
- an engine plant thread @ BON (http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21807&pid=317861&st=0&#entry317861), &
- my belief that Ford's on a major yearly kaizen* kick
so
imho the '09my Milan & Fusion will get the 3.0PIP v6**
even tho it'll be a very short model year for them
(tho some of those PIP's could get replaced by the 3.5 in the 2010my)
((&/but the MKZ will stay with the 3.5v6 until the new-look/when the MKS-EB intros))

* continuous improvement
** which might just be a 'goldilocks' engine in the long-term
in that
at resale/trade-in time when gas is over $5 per gallon,
even if the 3.5 is just as fuel efficient,
to the avg (ugh) consumer, that extra half liter will be a drawback :eek:

You gotta be kidding me! Ford damn well better not pull and 3.0L crap in the new Fusion! It wont be competitive and Ford needs to enter the "Arena" fully armed and ready

wingsnut
03-09-2008, 10:28 AM
"enter the arena"

They have been there and have been doing fine already. Even if Focus continued for another year with a 230HP 3.0L along with the 6-speed, they still have extra gear advantages over most of the competition. Besides, most of the competition will be scrambling to offers smaller engines soon anyway. Remember CAFE?

2b2
03-09-2008, 02:33 PM
You gotta be kidding me! Ford damn well better not pull and 3.0L crap in the new Fusion! It wont be competitive and Ford needs to enter the "Arena" fully armed and ready

ummm
was talking about the interim '09modelyear - the one that starts production June 2, 2008, not the new-look ones starting around the end of this year...

...about that, I'm not kidding ('course I could be wrong)

HEY
maybe they'll 'show' the PIP at NYC!?!
(for both the Milan&friend AND the Mariner&friend? *)
&
crossreferencing
Igor's latest article at AutoSavant (http://www.autosavant.net/2008/03/ford-will-be-mia-at-new-york.html) (Sunday, March 9, 2008)
"Ford will be M.I.A. at New York"


* I got my priorities ;) :D


inevitable-edit:
here's the Link for Ford's Autoshow site (http://autoshows.ford.com/220/2008/03/04/2008-york-auto-show/) (just in case)
&
re-* they haven't shown the "finally" all-there Mariner&Escape yet, have they?
("finally" is meant tongue-in-keyboard cuz the new-look M&E are getting their innards darn quick)

ross82694
04-08-2008, 05:36 PM
I saw a camoed Fusion today on my way to school in New Baltimore, MI. It had a grille that was similar-ish to the one on the Taurus that leaked out. Looked great. Panal fit looked better too....idk....im excited for this car.

RG59061
05-05-2008, 10:32 AM
Well...tis time to give this thread a bump.

To do so, we have more spy shots of the new 2009/2010 Ford Fusion.

This time, these shots are courtesy of World Car Fans.com and for once, we get a glimpse of the revised dash board! For the full details and article, visit the page of my good friends at World Car Fans.com (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080505.010/2010-ford-fusion-spied)


Spy Shot I (http://images.worldcarfans.com/2008/5/5/9080505.010/9080505.010.Mini1L.jpg)
You can see that the headlight shape has been re-worked and now stretches horizontally versus the vertical stack that we see today...should be an interesting change.


Spy Shot II (http://images.worldcarfans.com/2008/5/5/9080505.010/9080505.010.Mini2L.jpg)
Now here is where more changes begin...out back. Notice that the center mount brake light is LED based and now built into the top of the boot lid and not sitting in the base of the rear window.

Spy Shot III (http://images.worldcarfans.com/2008/5/5/9080505.010/9080505.010.Mini3L.jpg)
Again, more changes around back, see the protrusion at the top of the boot lid where the camo hugs tightly...spoilers or a newer style trunk lid...either way, I want to see it without this camo!

Interior Spy Shot I (http://images.worldcarfans.com/2008/5/5/9080505.010/9080505.010.Mini4L.jpg)
This is just a shot that was caught at a stop light, but you can see that the dash will see a fair amount of re-working and is now gaining more depth and differences in the drivers side and passengers side of the dash.

Well, enjoy everyone...hopefully more will be seen very soon!

As Always, Stay Fabulous!
RG59061

1931Chevy
05-05-2008, 10:45 AM
watchign the 2010 interior refresh it will look very different from the current one

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/gallery/

Z0mg Seth
05-05-2008, 03:20 PM
Here's a pic of the top half of the '10 Fusion dash. Looks like they've cut down on gaps. It doesn't look to be too radical of a change though. :(

http://images.worldcarfans.com/2008/5/5/9080505.010/9080505.010.Mini4L.jpg

2b2
05-05-2008, 03:52 PM
^^ there's been talk about the center console's switchgear (which isn't seen in that pic) being the new integrated type like Mariner/Escape & Flex)
also
a materials upgrade can make a huge improvement (Not saying it's bad now)

Z0mg Seth
05-05-2008, 03:55 PM
All I know is, come 2010, when I'm looking for a new car, a Fusion will be numero uno on my list. It'd be nice if integrated switchgear will be there. I also read it's supposed to be a "pop-out" console or something reminiscent of the Flex's console.

2b2
05-05-2008, 05:40 PM
just had a thunk about the 3.0PIP vs 3.5v6
what if they used the 240hp 3.0 for the Fwd and a 265(+?) 3.5 for Awd?

Z0mg Seth
05-05-2008, 05:53 PM
Wouldn't the EcoBoost be a pure AWD Sport 270+ hp model?

2b2
05-05-2008, 06:06 PM
was just trying to make sense out of rumors that both v6's would be avail
&
ST = EB4cyl
GT = EB3.5
?

no idea really... ...so many engines, so little time ;)

igor
05-06-2008, 06:41 AM
2.5l I4
2.5l EB
3.0l V6 (240hp)
ST: 3.5l V6
Hybrid

Igor

2b2
05-06-2008, 09:30 AM
2.5l I4
2.5l EB
3.0l V6 (240hp)
ST: 3.5l V6
Hybrid

Igor

TY!
any idea what they'll call the 2.5EB? ie how it'll be marketed, Igor?

ndwariga
05-06-2008, 10:28 AM
with AWD they can easily put 350 HP and about the same amount of TQ on the ground

igor
05-06-2008, 01:48 PM
TY!
any idea what they'll call the 2.5EB? ie how it'll be marketed, Igor?that is the most I can state confidently .. I have heard a LOT of different things, but this seems settled ....reveal in Los Angeles - as you know already.

Igor

2b2
05-07-2008, 02:56 PM
thin I put this in wrong thread so double-posting it here

thanks to member mackinaw @ BON (http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23564)

DetNews: Ford to double fuel-efficient, 6-speed transmissions (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/AUTO01/805070422/1361)

Ford Motor Co. said Wednesday it plans to greatly increase the use of more fuel-efficient six-speed automatic transmissions, doubling their number by the end of next year and putting them in 98 percent of its North American vehicles by 2012.

Ford said the six-speed automatic transmissions offer 4 percent to 6 percent better fuel economy than four- and five-speed automatics.

The Dearborn-based automaker says its 6F35 six-speed transmissions will debut in the 2009-model Ford Escape and Mercury Mariner crossover vehicles, which now have four-speed automatic transmissions. They also will go into the 2009 Mazda Tribute and two other vehicles early next year, Ford said. ..

more (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/AUTO01/805070422/1361)


----------------
imho there's no doubt the 2 vehicles in the part I bolded are the Milan & Fusion
but saw speculation as to whether it will be used on the PIP3.0 &or the 2.5 4cyl

2b2
05-08-2008, 02:35 PM
re:^^ article at Media.FORD.com (http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=28198&make_id=trust) about the new 6-speed transmission (& a 2nd article here (http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=28196))

&
wanted to quote part of Mr.M's Shareholder Meeting remarks that are posted in entirety HERE (http://www.fomoconews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13504#post13504)

"6. We are going to have six major new product launches in North America in 2008. By the end of year, more than 70 percent of our entire lineup will be new or significantly upgraded. And by 2010 100 percent will be refreshed or new. This wave of new products includes the Ford Flex crossover; Lincoln MKS, the hybrid options for the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan that Bill talked about, and an all-new version of the Ford F-150."


Now when Mark Fields mentioned the M&F hybrids on AutolineDetroit, he said "intro". Here Mr.M. is saying "launch".
Is that different & significant?
or am I splitting hairs?

also
What's the 6th major launch in 2008?

igor
05-09-2008, 07:01 AM
they will LAUNCH them in December 2008 - and they will be o dealer lots in January - just like the Escape, just like the Edge/

Igor

2b2
05-09-2008, 11:47 AM
^^yeahbut, Igor

the Edge & MKX went on sale in Dec'06 (2,201 & 859 respectively) as still-2007MY vehicles
not Jan'07 as '08MY's (unless I'm losing it worse than I thought)
yet
we've been hearing the Milan & Fusion MCE will be held for the coming ModelYear (2010my)
except
now the hybrids suddenly are getting referred to as 2008cy ( = 2009my)
tho they're not in the 09my Order guides...

is this all just sloppy "suit-speak"?
maybe this isn't important to anyone else but it's a very interesting & strange thing to me


also
in the back of my head,
since the CV is fleet only and the TC will be fleet&order-only (not open stock),
I'm wondering if the GM could be the 6th intro
(sort of 'not counting' the CV & TC)
and
if it could be a surprisingly significant MCE/mystery-makeover

2b2
05-09-2008, 02:48 PM
I'm completely sure you're right, LMdealer

that's why this "six 2008 launches" business bothers/intrigues me

MKII
05-11-2008, 12:37 AM
also
What's the 6th major launch in 2008?

Maybe the Transit?

2b2
05-11-2008, 02:19 AM
Yeah, bet you're right, MKII - felt like I was forgetting something, TY!
&
been re-thinking the Milan & Fusion... since Job1 will be in Dec., guess it's ok to say "launch" for '08

wingsnut
05-11-2008, 06:25 AM
A few months diff means far less to me than a perfect launch.
Ford feels the same way, thank goodness.

Z0mg Seth
05-11-2008, 06:32 AM
Wings, does the Mazda have a nicer interior than the MKZ?

Z0mg Seth
05-28-2008, 03:34 PM
Guys,

MT is now stating there's going to be a Fusion coupe. Is this true or is it another MT mistake?

2b2
05-28-2008, 04:00 PM
LINK, Seth?

it's been rumored sooo much
& MT has such a lousy track-record....

Z0mg Seth
05-28-2008, 04:36 PM
I can't find the online article. It's in the June magazine though.

baggs32
05-28-2008, 05:48 PM
I can't find the online article. It's in the June magazine though.

I read that in the new issue last night too. They didn't say Ford is considering a coupe, or might build one. The specifically said Ford is developing the Fusion coupe right now. Since I've heard nothing of the sort from more reliable sources, like these forums, I just ignored it.

RG59061
05-29-2008, 01:55 PM
I read that in the new issue last night too. They didn't say Ford is considering a coupe, or might build one. The specifically said Ford is developing the Fusion coupe right now. Since I've heard nothing of the sort from more reliable sources, like these forums, I just ignored it.


MotorTrend speculated a Fusion Coupe almost a year ago...but then decided that it would ultimately cannibalize sales of the Mustang. Plus, at the time Toyota was dropping the Solara Coupe...so they justified that the coupe market wasn't strong enough for a Fusion Coupe.

But an MKZ coupe...that could work.

Stay Fabulous!
RG59061

falcon lover
05-30-2008, 01:53 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/30/spy-shots-ford-fusions-new-face-found/


Here the article about the new Fusion face. I think the grille is not "smile" , like Autoblog say. I think is wrong fixed to the prototipe. The whole front end will be new...

2b2
05-30-2008, 02:20 PM
Thanks, FalconLover!
think we pretty much knew this much (see attached chop from last Aug)
nice to see pix tho -I guess- might be nicer if it was kept under wraps until LAIAS

here's JollyPop's ;) article (http://jalopnik.com/394350/2010-ford-fusion-shiny-happy-mid+size-sedan)

YellowZx5
05-30-2008, 09:22 PM
I agree that the top bar of the grill will be more straight than bowed. If it was straight then it would look a lot better. it looks hideous bent like someone stepped on it and never fixed it.

milanfan
05-31-2008, 03:42 AM
looks like someone was drunk when they designed those bars. It's horrible!

LM4EVR
05-31-2008, 03:16 PM
It looks like it is sagging in the middle! hope they don't decide to give the Milan crooked teeth!