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mchicha
01-11-2009, 08:16 PM
Lincoln Concept C


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LINCOLN C CONCEPT: BIG LUXURY IN SMALL PACKAGE

DETROIT, Jan. 12, 2009 Lincoln is breaking new ground with the Lincoln C concept, a new big idea for a small luxury car.

Designed with today's upscale, urban consumer in mind, the Lincoln C concept brings the presence and elegance of a large Lincoln to a smaller, more efficient C-sized car.

"Modern luxury buyers who live and work in large, urban areas want to play their part in helping the environment by moving to a smaller vehicle, but they still want to enjoy the luxuries of life," said Peter Horbury, executive director of Design, The Americas. "The Lincoln C offers sensible indulgence."

According to Horbury, younger contemporary consumers with slim iPods and pocket-sized cameras have already grown accustomed to the notion of premium quality in a small package.

"During the past decade, people have gotten used to the idea that you could pay more money for a smaller version of the real thing," said Horbury, citing the evolution of music players from tapes to CDs to MP3 players as an example.

"The same philosophy can be applied to the automobile," he added. "People will be happy to buy a smaller car that is better for the environment and more maneuverable in the city as long as the vehicle has all the attributes they want."

The concept's unique size, lightweight construction and use of sustainable materials make the Lincoln C stand out along with its fuel economy.

Featuring a 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine and Ford's all-new dry, dual-clutch PowerShift six-speed transmission, the Lincoln C concept achieves 43 mpg on the highway, while offering up an impressive 180 horsepower and 180 ft.-lbs. of torque. PowerShift and outstanding driving dynamics make the Lincoln C concept fun for the driver.

Plus, a sophisticated human machine interface (HMI) and forward-thinking in-car connectivity technologies bring a whole new dimension to social networking, an important facet of modern customers' active lifestyles.

"Connectivity is as much a luxury for today's younger car buyer as are the traditional luxuries of wood, leather and a comfortable ride," said Horbury. "It means being able to continue your lifestyle seamlessly while you're on the move."

Sporty, Elegant Exterior Design
When designers developed the Lincoln C concept, their goal was to create a C-sized automobile with both presence and elegance. Their vision: a smaller, more fuel-efficient car that could maneuver easily in congested urban areas and compact parking spaces, yet still provide driver and passengers with levels of luxury and comfort usually reserved for larger sedans.

"Lincoln C is about efficiency without compromise," said Freeman Thomas, director of Ford's Strategic Concepts Group, who led the Lincoln C design team David Woodhouse, Jeremy Leng, Andrei Markevich and Matt Edwards.

One of the most distinctive features of the Lincoln C is its unique silhouette. The visual mass of the car is very low to the road. A low-slung shoulder line with a wheel-at-each-corner stance supports a dynamic, slightly formal cabin. The aim was "go kart" visual stability combined with elegant lines and surfaces.

At first glance, the silhouette is immediately distinguished by a bold front profile, low shoulder, high beltline, wide C-pillar and compact bustle back.

The modern appearance of the Lincoln C reflects the timeless, iconic elements of the Lincoln DNA: sheer surfaces bounded by defined creases; a cantilevered roof extending from a strong C-pillar; a confident double-wing chrome grille; full-width tail lamps and rocker brightwork.

The front end of the concept is unmistakably Lincoln. The signature grille encapsulates LED headlamps that like the taillights are made with prismatic optical elements that create depth and visual sophistication. A sculpted groove in the top of the front hood which derives its shape from the Lincoln badge adds a finishing touch to the grille of the car.

A low shoulder line combines with a strong, high belt line to create a sense of safety and privacy inside and outside of the vehicle.

An aluminum cantrail adds elegance to the concept by extending the beltline to the rear glass and breaking up the otherwise tall C-pillar. Aluminum is also visible inside the door apertures.

The Lincoln C is absent of a B-pillar or center post. The center-opening doors a classic Lincoln trait that rekindles memories of the 1961 Continental allow effortless access to first- and second-row bench seats and give the vehicle a limousine-like quality.

Sleek side mirrors house both advanced rear-view camera and blind spot detection technologies. Slit-like LED turn signal indicators are integrated into the mirrors, allowing slim, efficient light.

LED taillamps span the full-width of the Lincoln C's rear, featuring turn signal indicators that fade toward the center of the car stretch from side to side.

An all-glass roof provides a modern, futuristic look. The expansive opening illuminates the cabin and enhances the sense of spaciousness inside the car.

Designers reinterpreted the presentation of the Lincoln badge throughout the exterior of the Lincoln C in a subtle way, giving it a contemporary "race track" theme. The Lincoln star sits proudly at the center of the front end, and the rear badge is slightly morphed to suit its placement above the taillights.

A more in-depth look at various details of the Lincoln C reveals that the badge motif is repeated in discreet ways in the design of the front lower intake mesh; the shape of the glass roof and structure; the implied illuminated keyholes on the door handles; the shape of the rear-view camera that sits on the back of the roof; the design of the wheels and the pattern in the tire treads.

The exterior of the Lincoln C is bathed in a light, exterior clear coat that hints of yellow metallic.

Modern, Timeless Interior Design
Inside, the Lincoln C concept welcomes driver and passengers to a space that looks more like the living room of a contemporary urban loft than the inside of a car.

Elements of classic Lincoln DNA permeate the cabin, including: a bright, clean, light color palette; authentic materials such as wood and metal; ambient lighting; jewel-like chrome details; bench seating; and the symmetrical design of the instrument panel, which thoughtfully serves both driver and passengers.

The interior's all-white color palette -- from roof to seats to floor -- is stunning. Subtle chrome accents on the seats, instrument panel, door panels and floor glimmer like fine jewelry. A light gray wood veneer made from recycled wood provides a striking contrast against the white leather on the instrument panel and door panels. The headliner is white Alcantara suede.
Because the Lincoln C concept is two inches wider than conventional C-class vehicles, it offers the roominess of a 1961 Continental at almost half the length. In modern terms, the vehicle has the overall length of a Ford Focus and the overall width of a Lincoln MKZ.

Designers took full advantage of the extra space in the interior of the Lincoln C by incorporating luxurious bench seating in the front and back rows. They are crafted from luxurious, chromium-free leather and filled with soy foam. The seats are thin and lightweight, but because they were designed to an ergonomic comfort curve, they are extremely comfortable.

There is a single headrest on the left and a double headrest on the right for passengers in both rows. All the headrests automatically retract without occupants for optimized driver vision. Convenience trays are housed compactly behind the front bench. In the closed position, they are flush with the leather and feature chrome release handles.

One of the most eye-catching elements of the seating is the laser-engraved floral etching on the passenger side seats and floor and on the back of the driver's seat. It is a light, airy pattern that gives the interior a refined, sophisticated look.

Because of their unique shape and the imperceptible way that they are mounted to the floor, the benches appear to be floating inside the cabin.

The steering wheel and instrument panel also seem to be suspended in air. All of these elements combine to enhance the concept's futuristic look, openness, and give the impression of dynamic space within the vehicle.

The steering wheel is hubless, lending the driver an unobstructed view of the instrument panel. The glossy white rim rotates around a stationary chrome ring with chrome shifter paddles on both sides. Simple toggles embedded into the left and right sides of the wheel control the vehicle's navigation system and menu selection.

The instrument panel is leather-wrapped with a chrome bezel. The light, gray wood veneer forms a symmetrical shape that surrounds the center-mounted touch screen and extends out to the right and left sides. Above the center screen is the Lincoln nomenclature and badge, finished tastefully in chrome.

The panoramic instrument panel is divided into three sections and designed with a mixture of digital and analog components. The left side contains Lincoln's signature HMI menus and driver-related information. The center portion displays a multi-functional screen displaying navigation, SYNC details and a life-like custom avatar to help make everyday journeys more seamless and other helpful, driver-oriented options.

Soft, white ambient lighting creates a relaxing atmosphere inside the cabin. The lighting is integrated into the C-pillar with a front face that displays the Lincoln badge.

The roof also features an integrated rearview mirror and a chrome-trimmed Web camera that rotates to the right or left, depending on whether the driver or the passenger is communicating via the Internet. A chrome air vent follows the shape of the glass roof.

"While the most luxurious and indulgent products often come in the smallest packages, unfortunately this hasn't been true of most small cars recently," said J Mays, Ford's group vice president of Design. "With the Lincoln C, we've remixed the traditional small car formula, taking the most engaging technologies and wrapping them in a design fit for today's urban luxury customer without sacrificing style or substance."

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LINCOLN C PAIRS ECOBOOST I-4 WITH DUAL-CLUTCH POWERSHIFT TRANSMISSION FOR 40-PLUS MPG

DETROIT, Jan. 12, 2009 The Lincoln C concept showcases Ford Motor Company's newest combination of fuel-efficient powertrain innovations: a four-cylinder EcoBoost engine mated to a dual-clutch PowerShift transmission.

Featuring a 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine and Ford's all-new dry, dual-clutch PowerShift six-speed transmission, Lincoln C achieves a projected 43 mpg on the highway, while offering up an estimated 180 horsepower and 180 ft.-lbs. of torque. That's a nearly 25 percent fuel-economy improvement over Lincoln C's fuel-sipping C-car cousin, the Ford Focus, which currently delivers unsurpassed highway fuel economy in its segment when equipped with a 2.0-liter naturally aspirated engine.

"Lincoln C demonstrates that a higher degree of engine downsizing as the key to fuel economy improvement, paired with the right technologies, can deliver optimum horsepower, torque and drive-away capability," said Andreas Schamel, a chief engine engineer with Ford's Powertrain Research Laboratory. "Plus, when combined with the PowerShift six-speed transmission, the impossible equation becomes perfectly possible: lower fuel consumption, increased power and smoother, more fun-to-drive performance."
The 1.6-Liter EcoBoost Engine
The Lincoln C concept's 1.6-liter engine dimensions the common attributes of Ford's EcoBoost strategy, leveraging a combination of direct fuel injection technology and turbocharging to deliver significantly improved fuel economy and torque versus a larger displacement engine, while reducing emissions up to 15 percent.

The 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine features turbocharging and a central-injector direct injection system. Using a central injector instead of a side-injector system provides improved fuel-air mixture preparation, helping to further reduce fuel consumption and lower emissions. A central injector-based system also provides the most flexible foundation for future fuel-saving technologies.

"We know that a central injection system is a prerequisite for future global fuel economy upgrades such as stratified lean operation, homogeneous charge compression ignition or HCCI, and premium injection system technology if the market demands," said Martin Wirth, a Ford Direct Injection Gasoline Systems and Combustion technical specialist. "It's a value solution that gives us the ability to answer market trends quickly and provide broad market coverage, a key component of the EcoBoost strategy to deliver an affordable, fuel-efficient engine technology at high volumes."

When compared to a standard 2.0-liter naturally aspirated engine, the 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine can deliver up to a 10-percent gain in fuel economy simply on the merits of the engine downsizing and boosting as well as common powertrain systems such as twin independent variable camshaft timing (TI-VCT).

TI-VCT varies the phase of the intake and exhaust cams independently for improved airflow through the engine, which delivers more torque while reducing average fuel consumption by up to 5 percent. "TI-VCT gives us better low-end torque and drive-away capabilities even under the stronger engine downsizing conditions," said Wirth.

The 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine also features other sophisticated fuel-saving powertrain technologies such as Assisted Direct Start, which contributes to an additional 3 percent gain in fuel efficiency.

Assisted Direct Start automatically shuts down the engine when the vehicle is at idle at a stop light, for example and automatically restarts the engine when the brake is released or gas pedal is engaged, improving fuel economy by saving idle fuel consumption.

When a vehicle comes to a stop, the electronic control unit immediately synchronizes the engine's systems for restart. Once the brake pedal is released or the gas pedal is engaged, a short starter engagement triggers the direct fuel injection system to fill the cylinders with fuel, initiate combustion and start the engine, producing the no-hesitation vehicle launch. An advanced battery management system converts braking energy into electricity and stores it to keep electrical systems operating while the engine is not running.

This advanced system provides consistent start behavior of the stopped or stopping engine that is smooth, quiet and seamless to the customer, requiring no changes in driver behavior.

Powershift Transmission
The Lincoln C concept also features Ford's dual-clutch PowerShift six-speed transmission, which delivers the efficiency of a manual with the ease of operation of a premium automatic transmission.

Compared to traditional automatic four-speed transmissions, PowerShift can help reduce fuel consumption by up to 9 percent depending on the application. PowerShift, for example, contributes to an estimated 8 percent uptick in Lincoln C's fuel efficiency when compared to the current Focus.

"The Lincoln C application of PowerShift helps illustrate the competitive advantage this transmission will offer to Ford in the global small car markets," said Jack Dorigo, North America Powertrain Planning manager. "It's a new-to-segment technology that's an improvement over today's automatic transmissions in terms of fuel economy while providing customers a more connected feel between the pedal and the vehicle's acceleration."

PowerShift provides the full comfort of an automatic with a more sophisticated driving dynamic, thanks to uninterrupted torque from the dual-clutch technology, which consists essentially of two manual transmissions working in parallel, each with its own independent clutch unit. One clutch carries the uneven gears 1, 3 and 5 while the other the even gears 2, 4 and 6. Subsequent gear changes are coordinated between both clutches as they engage and disengage for a seamless delivery of torque to the wheels.

The lean curb weight of the Lincoln C enables a dry-clutch derivative of Ford's PowerShift transmission for added efficiency and durability. A dry clutch transmits power and torque through manual transmission clutch facings, while most automatic transmissions utilize wet clutch plates submerged in oil. As a result, the dry-clutch PowerShift transmission does not require an oil pump or torque converter, providing superior mechanical efficiency.

"A dry clutch is a real sweet spot for lighter vehicle applications like the Lincoln C concept," said Piero Aversa, manager, Ford Automatic Transmission Engineering. "It is perfectly matched to this vehicle and engine. PowerShift is more efficient, it saves weight, is more durable, more efficient and the unit is sealed for life, requiring no regular maintenance."

Lincoln C weighs in at 2,750 lbs. due to a number of light-weighting measures, including the transmission. PowerShift, unlike conventional automatic transmissions, does not need the pound-adding torque converter or planetary gears. In addition, the dry-clutch derivative eliminates the need for the weighty pumps, hydraulic fluids, cooling lines and external coolers that wet clutch transmissions require. As a result, the dry-clutch PowerShift transmission showcased on the Lincoln C is nearly 30 pounds lighter than the four-speed automatic transmission featured on today's Focus.

Differentiating PowerShift even further in terms of its customer appeal is its shift quality, launch feel and overall drive dynamic, which are all facilitated by an expert blend of Ford-exclusive electro-mechanical systems, software features, calibrations and controls. These unique driving features include:

Neutral coast down The clutches will disengage when the brakes are applied, improving coasting downshifts and clutch robustness as well as reducing parasitic losses for increased fuel economy.

Precise clutch control in the form of a clutch slip to provide torsional damping of the engine vibration This function improves noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) at low engine speeds and enables lower lugging limits for improved fuel economy.

Low-speed driving or creep mode with integrated brake pressure This function simulates the low-speed control drivers are accustomed to from an automatic transmission. T he amount of rolling torque in Drive and Reverse is precisely controlled, gradually building as brake pressure is released.

Hill mode or launch assist Prevents a vehicle from rolling back on a grade by maintaining brake pressure until the engine delivers enough torque to move the vehicle up the hill, providing improved driver confidence, comfort, safety and clutch robustness.

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LINCOLN C SHOWCASES THE FUTURE OF DRIVER INFORMATION AND IN-CAR CONNECTIVITY SYSTEMS

DETROIT, Jan. 12, 2009 Powered by a sophisticated human machine interface (HMI) and forward-thinking in-car connectivity technologies, the Lincoln C concept reinvents the automobile as a customer's companion in life on and off the road.

Lincoln C's car-to-companion transformation is the result of an innovative melding of Ford's new signature HMI as well as a next-generation in-car connectivity features anchored by Ford's award-winning SYNC technology and a revolutionary new system that helps intuitively connect occupants with the vehicle, their mobile devices and even the outside world.

All interaction and information is offered up in a simple, intelligent format that keeps a driver informed but not distracted.

Simple, Sophisticated Control
The foundation of Lincoln C's connectivity capabilities is Ford's signature HMI.

This intelligent interface makes useful and relevant information and functionality immediately available to the driver in a way that is logical, easy to use and completely integrated.
"Before technologies such as SYNC were even crystallized, we knew we had to create a way for people to interface with their vehicle and its myriad technologies and features that was more manageable and limitless in terms of its ability to incorporate new innovations as they come," said Gary Braddock, Ford's group chief designer. "Our HMI had to create for the auto world what the mouse is to the PC world."

Unique to Ford's HMI strategy is the seemingly simplistic approach to how and where information is displayed. All car-related information, for example, appears to the left of the speedometer, including fuel economy, trip information and vehicle diagnostics. Passenger-related functions, such as audio, climate, navigation and phone, appear to the right of the instrument cluster.

"The beauty of this system is that the way information is offered encourages you to explore deeper and deeper and discover without fear or intimidation just how much the product can do for you," said Braddock.

The system's integrated platform offers tried-and-true methods of information control steering wheel switches, touch screens and voice-activation which can be alternatively used by the driver depending on the task, desire for control and preference.

The set of steering wheel controls, one on the left to access the car-related information and another on the right for the people-related functions, uses a stereotypical five-way mapping similar to that found on most cell phones and MP3 players up, down, left, right and a center OK button creating instant familiarity for the user.

Ford's signature HMI also aligns cluster and center stack display technologies and graphic treatments for visual harmony and synchronized information delivery. In the case of the Lincoln C concept, the touch-screen center stack has a four-corner layout that includes phone in the upper left, audio in the lower left, navigation in the upper right and climate in the lower right.

"Our vision for HMI is to make a customer's transition from home, to car, to the office and back again be experienced as seamless and uncompromised," said John Schneider, global chief engineer responsible for HMI, Driver Controls and Infotainment. "We want our vehicles to give you exactly what you need, when you need it and how need it. And, we want to do it in a way that adds emotion, personality and excitement for the customer."

In-Car Connectivity
Lincoln C features the latest in terms of SYNC-enabled technologies, providing hands-free, voice-activated cell phone, text messaging, and digital media player integration as well as security and personalized convenience features such as 911 Assist and Vehicle Health Reports.

In addition, the in-vehicle communications system is expanded to include a proprietary plug-and-play network architecture that can use a Bluetooth-enabled phone to access Internet-based services such as traffic reports, turn-by-turn navigation, a 14-million-plus business directory listing, weather forecasts, the latest sports scores and more. Customers have the option to personalize this information.

This latest evolution of SYNC with the Traffic, Directions and Information feature is set to launch next year on nearly all 2010 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury vehicles.

"SYNC puts Ford in a sweet spot in terms of vehicle connectivity because it allows us to take the cockpit of a vehicle and open it up to our customers' personal devices, especially the mobile phone which is considered by many as an extension of oneself," said Joseph Berry, a member of Ford's newly formed Consumer Service Organization and a lead architect of the company's emerging off-board services system.

In-Car Companion
Catapulting Lincoln C's in-car connectivity to an unprecedented level is the system that uses a life-like avatar to connect the driver to the vehicle and all the functionality offered through key systems such as Ford's signature HMI and SYNC.

This avatar nicknamed "EVA" lives on the Lincoln C instrument panel and can take on a personalized visual image and personality. It responds to conversational speech, eliminating the need for menus or learned voice commands. Plus, EVA expertly manages and initiates all vehicle and SYNC-enabled functions and information to the driver. The avatar can even sense a driver's mood through voice and drive style and respond appropriately with, for example, a favorite song suggestion from a SYNC-connected MP3 music library.

This unique system on the Lincoln C concept also offers in-car Internet access, allowing the avatar to surf the Web for the driver and read the morning's online news headlines or latest restaurant reviews, check e-mail, or access a friend's Facebook page. The system will even advise the driver when and where to refuel based on fuel level, driving habits, gas station locations and current prices.

"We've taken the notion of effective vehicle HMI and the user's experience to the next level," said Braddock. "Our system creates a method of organization and function in the vehicle that is intuitive, familiar and keeps the driver focused on driving, along with creating a personality within the vehicle that evokes emotion, a personal connection and a sense of confident control."



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Z0mg Seth
01-11-2009, 09:01 PM
Is it a coupe? :)

mchicha
01-11-2009, 09:03 PM
Is it a coupe? :)

I have no idea. Just waiting to see if Ford has it on their site and also looking at wieck media

Andrew L
01-11-2009, 11:05 PM
I think this is what that guy at the auto show was talking about he did say Lincoln C :)

Z0mg Seth
01-12-2009, 05:52 AM
It's not a coupe. There's a screen at the bottom of the Lincoln homepage that switches in between employee pricing, MKS, MKT, and the C....It looks like a hatch. :(

Z0mg Seth
01-12-2009, 07:26 AM
Autoblog:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/12/detroit-2009-little-bigtime-concept-c-takes-lincoln-in-brand/


Where the hell does this leave Mercury? This should be the Mercury BOBCAT. Damn it, Ford.

MERCURYSABLE08
01-12-2009, 08:02 AM
^Whoa! That thing is ugly. Like Z0mg Seth said, where does this leave Mercury? We all were told Mercury would be doing small cars, not Lincoln.

To tell you the truth I'm about sick & tired of all of these Lincoln Concepts.

Mercury hasn't had a concept car since the Meta-One in 2005.

I guess this kinda means Mercury is finished no matter what Ford says because the last few concepts Lincoln has made ended up being production models. So, I guess around 2012 when this rolls into Lincoln showrooms as a production model Mercury will be rolling out.

falcon lover
01-12-2009, 09:04 AM
What an ugly thing! My God.... Is a bastard child from Acura TL and old Renault Megane Hatch...

And Mercury? A C car, based in the next Focus , like this horrible thing , have been planned for Mercury.... or Ford will have 3 C-Cars: Ford Focus, Mercury xxx and this horrible car for Lincoln???

Andrew L
01-12-2009, 09:11 AM
well... its not a coupe thats for sure... its something else.... something ugly haha

2b2
01-12-2009, 11:36 AM
LOL

It is hilarious how you all get so worked up over a Concept vehicle.



^then you'll love my
linColn paCer (http://www.fomoconews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20461#post20461)
"we gotta put a stop to this" (http://www.fomoconews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20461#post20461)
thread (http://www.fomoconews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20461#post20461)

RoboRed
01-12-2009, 11:50 AM
I say it's a nice idea, but it DEFINITELY needs some reworking, to say the least. It looks like the offspring of an MKS and a Mini, with a little Town Car mixed in.

First and foremost, the ass-end is HORRIBLE. That needs to be changed.

Second, the interior isn't too bad. It has a bright, futuristic look, with seat styling similar to the Interceptor Concept. However, the seats are part of the problem (never liked em'), and the steering wheel is horrible.

Three: "GOOD LORD, I HATE THAT SHADE OF YELLOW."


Other than that, a little refinement and Lincoln (or possibly Mercury...) will have themselves a pretty decent car.

GRIMEYtheFATMAN
01-12-2009, 01:29 PM
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GRIMEYtheFATMAN
01-12-2009, 01:32 PM
Raise that shoulder line and give it a trunk and they MIGHT have something here...

2b2
01-12-2009, 02:37 PM
save those wheels
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/2b2/nonFomoco/MKC-wheel.jpg
& throw the rest away... ...quickly (it already STINKS!)

YellowZx5
01-12-2009, 03:58 PM
LOL

It is hilarious how you all get so worked up over a Concept vehicle.

I kind of agree with them all, but I am sure they will take a lot of cues from this into the design the next Lincoln. I am sure time will only tell.

djhogie
01-12-2009, 05:13 PM
I hope this car stays as a concept. :(

1931Chevy
01-12-2009, 09:17 PM
I got a feeling that a mercury concept might appear in NY or LA and if not then yes mercury its a gonner:(

mercury_1988
01-13-2009, 02:10 AM
^Whoa! That thing is ugly. Like Z0mg Seth said, where does this leave Mercury? We all were told Mercury would be doing small cars, not Lincoln.

To tell you the truth I'm about sick & tired of all of these Lincoln Concepts.

Mercury hasn't had a concept car since the Meta-One in 2005.

I guess this kinda means Mercury is finished no matter what Ford says because the last few concepts Lincoln has made ended up being production models. So, I guess around 2012 when this rolls into Lincoln showrooms as a production model Mercury will be rolling out.

The Mercury Meta-one and Messenger were one of the greatest concepts Ford has ever produced what shame to let Mercury starve to death at least let it die wit dignity . The Mercury brand makes me a loyal customer to Ford and it 'll always be my favorite brand Mercury deserves a better treatment :( .

YellowZx5
01-13-2009, 03:31 AM
I had to Google the Meta-one and the Messenger vehicles and they look nice. The Meta-one is a little Explorer/ Mountaineer replacement, and we all know they are too big for the plan Ford has for Mercury.

The Messenger seems like a good replacement for the Cougar, with still room for a small fuel efficient vehicle.

I hope Ford strives in the recession and other people out there look at Ford with a different view. The domestics have had a look at death and they don't like it , so they finally are producing vehicles the press are liking and the population are finally seeing the new Ford and the new GM.

RoboRed
01-13-2009, 08:48 AM
I agree, the Messenger looks like it would make a good Cougar.

The Meta One looks like a Mercury version of the Freestyle/Taurus X. I like the back lights.

I think the same person who had a hand in the design of the Interceptor and C concepts also had a hand in the Meta One...those hideous seats are there.

Speaking of similar design, the dash in the Meta One looks awfully similar to the one in the C...

Messenger: http://www.netcarshow.com/mercury/2003-messenger_concept/
Meta One: http://www.netcarshow.com/mercury/2004-meta_one_concept/

MaxLegroom
01-17-2009, 11:54 AM
LOL

It is hilarious how you all get so worked up over a Concept vehicle.
There are good reasons for this. Perhaps we don't want Lincoln to produce its own Aztek, which went from being a bad concept idea to a bad production car idea. Maybe if we protest enough beforehand, such atrocities won't be built to begin with, wasting resources that are scarce for the domestic makers these days.

Actually, I find some of the details, particularly inside, to be interesting. However, I wonder if a Lincoln Cube, and this is what this strikes me as (small, depends on unususal styling for its appeal) is a good idea.

SobeSVT
01-17-2009, 03:02 PM
There are good reasons for this. Perhaps we don't want Lincoln to produce its own Aztek, which went from being a bad concept idea to a bad production car idea. Maybe if we protest enough beforehand, such atrocities won't be built to begin with, wasting resources that are scarce for the domestic makers these days.

Actually, I find some of the details, particularly inside, to be interesting. However, I wonder if a Lincoln Cube, and this is what this strikes me as (small, depends on unususal styling for its appeal) is a good idea.
The problem is that the Concept C was the surprise and smashing hit of NAIAS 2009. Public and media alike loved it, therefore I believe you will have a hard time making your case.

MERCURYSABLE08
01-17-2009, 04:18 PM
The problem is that the Concept C was the surprise and smashing hit of NAIAS 2009. Public and media alike loved it, therefore I believe you will have a hard time making your case.

You're right Sobe, but I still can't see how anyone can love the Concept C, in my opinion it's absolutely hideous & by far the worst Lincoln Concept ever.

2b2
01-17-2009, 06:06 PM
The problem is that the Concept C was the surprise and smashing hit of NAIAS 2009. Public and media alike loved it, therefore I believe you will have a hard time making your case.

ah!/nope!... well not quite
imho it's just the novelty of THIS coming from LINCOLN :eek:

the problem WILL BE when the buying-public who DOESN'T go to autoshows
OR post on car sites on the net
express THEIR Opinion$

and as I told a friend in a PM:
I actually feel good about ridiculing Lincoln over it because
- Lincoln's doing so well, this one 'dark stain' makes everything else even brighter Imho
- a big annoyance is that THIS has opera doors but the MKR wasn't allowed to
- really really don't want anyone to think of this weirdness as a possible Mercury
- don't want anyone to think this could replace Mercury as the premium smallcar provider
- kinda gives me web-credit as Not-a-Cheerleader
- I'd NEVER make these comments if I thought it could actually hurt Mercury-Lincoln
(adding now)
- think if this goes into production IT WILL HURT whoever gets it (after everyone who wants one, gets theirs in the first ...oh... month-week-day?

&
here's a chop I did for another friend
which imho supports my opinion that it's a facile Mini-Pacer ripoff
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/2b2/nonFomoco/Why-C-640.jpg

not disgusting anymore - but Also NOT ORIGINAL either
...I was thinking of trying a chop with a 1986-9 gen4 Celica's dropped beltline...
seriously!...

^see LINCOLN dataminers^?
I think a 20 y.o. CELICA is an improvement!!!

Lyndongolden
01-18-2009, 06:56 AM
The Concept C styling crosses Mini Cooper cuteness with Nissan Cube utility. However, the Lincoln successfully avoids the "cute & wacky" motif of those two character donors. Just look at the beautiful Lincoln face, the two-tone paint, subtle chrome accents...they all work together to build the Concept C's presence... looking rich, mature and desirable. With the right (that means potent, refined) power train, and pricing in the $22K range, Lincoln could pioneer a new segment of delightful little luxury cars. If this step is thought to be too radical and divergent from Lincoln's brand identity and overall mission, then a version of the Concept C would be great for boosting awareness & excitement for the Mercury brand, which currently suffers from a fuzzy image.

90Cartier
01-18-2009, 11:32 AM
New here, hi everyone!

I'm not going to the auto show until tomorrow morning, so I haven't seen the car in person. However, I can say from the photos on here I do not like the exterior styling--although suicide doors would be awesome on a production car.

The interior is awesome, though. I'm amazed they actually put a front bench seat (!) in a concept car so it can actually carry more than 5 people. I learned to drive in a Crown Victoria and now I'm driving a 90 Town Car--I don't like floor shifters and center consoles, which is another reason why the concept appeals to me.

The technology is really cool, too--the automatic headrests, the floating seats, the interactive computer, etc. I wonder how much of that would actually make it into production.

I suppose I should reserve full judgment until an actual production model is considered/made. I hated the MKT concept at last year's show, but I like how they adjusted the styling for the production model. So if they do make this car, I doubt they would leave the outside as radical as it is.

I really hope the Chicago show unveils a Mercury vehicle!

MERCURYSABLE08
01-18-2009, 11:53 AM
^ Hi 90Cartier. Welcome to Fomoconews. We all hope to see you back soon.

Enjoy the Auto Show!

MaxLegroom
01-18-2009, 05:40 PM
The problem is that the Concept C was the surprise and smashing hit of NAIAS 2009. Public and media alike loved it, therefore I believe you will have a hard time making your case.Point well taken, however, the point I was trying to make was based on some people's reaction here to the Concept C, which was mixed. Actually, if Lexus can see fit to prepare to sell a version of the Prius, then a production version of Concept C, if it could be brought wholly to fruition, should blow it out of the water. The HS250h manages to possess none of the high tech charm of a) the Concept C or even b) the 2010 Prius from which it springs. It might be that it is time for a new concept in luxury cars.

nelsonlu
01-18-2009, 11:08 PM
Point well taken, however, the point I was trying to make was based on some people's reaction here to the Concept C, which was mixed. Actually, if Lexus can see fit to prepare to sell a version of the Prius, then a production version of Concept C, if it could be brought wholly to fruition, should blow it out of the water. The HS250h manages to possess none of the high tech charm of a) the Concept C or even b) the 2010 Prius from which it springs. It might be that it is time for a new concept in luxury cars.

However, I think comparing the HS250h to the Concept C is comparing apples to oranges. The HS250h was created because Toyota believes, correctly or not (and I think they're correct in this) that there is a market for a mid-sized luxury hybrid. (I recently ordered a Fusion Hybrid to be a replacement vehicle for a LS; certainly I would have considered a MKZ Hybrid if Ford produced one.) That's not the same market that the Concept C, if it is ever produced, will be going after, as while the I4 EcoBoost, while intending to produce a substantially higher fuel economy, is not a hybrid engine and a Concept C with an I4 EcoBoost presumably won't approach the HS250h (or whatever its replacement would be by that point) in fuel economy.

2b2
01-24-2009, 09:19 PM
somehow artandcolours MKW and the comments about it gave me an idea...

What IF
the 'C' is not only trying out the idea of a (far) future small Lincoln
but
a sorta preview of the premium-passenger TransitConnect that I've been ranting for as a MERCURY?

look at the interior - spacious but very simple seating with top quality materials in a cavernous space http://home.surfree.com/~pauld/OhREALLY.gif