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ndwariga
04-12-2010, 07:38 AM
Comparison: 2011 Mustang V-6 vs 2010 Genesis Coupe 3.8 vs 2010 Camaro RS vs 2010 Challenger SE
http://image.motortrend.com/f/27525785+w750/2011-ford-mustang-2010-chevy-camaro-rs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-2010-dodge-challenger-group-drag.jpg



Originating in the late 1960s, the term "musclecar" has always referred to an American coupe with a robust engine designed to generate stout levels of both speed and power. In other words, a rear-drive two-door V-8-propelled Yankee capable of producing thunderclouds of Firestone smoke.
Today, much remains the same. Take a look at our recent comparison test between three modern musclecars -- Ford Mustang GT, Chevrolet Camaro SS, and Dodge Challenger SRT8 -- and you'll see that all are American designed and engineered (the Chevy and Dodge, it's worth noting, are assembled in Canada), feature brawny 400-plus-horsepower V-8 engines (the "smallest" displaces 5.0 liters), and are capable of quarter-mile times once reserved for race cars and import supercars (the Mustang GT needs just 12.7 seconds at 111.3 mph). It's safe to say that today's collection of muscle is the greatest of all time, certainly when considering the handling dynamics match the heady horsepower.
Of course, the price for all of this muscular marvelousness, while relatively cheap compared with similarly powerful coupes from Asia and Europe, still runs around $40 large when optioned up. So if you're one who associates musclecar with affordable, then you're out of luck. Fortunately, there's an offshoot of the musclecar available today that can burn gobs of rubber without burning wads of cash. These coupes retain the requisite front-engine, rear-drive layout but ditch V-8s in favor of advanced, high-revving V-6s, a move that drops bottom lines to around $25,000 to start. And, when applicable, these six-cylinder, four-seat coupes sport styling that mimics that of their V-8 brethren, so their facades still scream bulging bicep. Let's dub them "hustlecars."

Overall

4th place: Dodge Challenger SE
A yacht trying to keep up with speedboats, but the ride and style are smooth.

3rd place: Chevrolet Camaro RS
A quick coupe whose weight sacrifices fun and cartoonish cabin compromises comfort.

2nd place: Ford Mustang V-6
New 3.7 is nearly as quick as last year's 4.6-liter V-8, and more fun to drive, too.

1st place: Hyundai Genesis 3.8 Track
The only one that looks and feels like a sports car. Surprise, we liked it best.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1004_2011_mustang_v6_vs_2010_genesis_coupe_3_8_vs_ 2010_camaro_rs_vs_2010_challenger_se/index.html#ixzz0ktfFTQnw

Colvindesign
04-12-2010, 09:25 AM
Well, when you factor in price, the results would be different.

2010 Dodge Challenger SE, $22,735
2011 Mustang V6 coupe, $22,145
2010 Hyundai 3.8 Track $29,500
2010 Camaro LS $22,680
(Source: Yahoo autos)

IMO, a slanted review using the top of line performance model (at a 7k premium). Even if the loaded up V6's were used from the other makers, they do not have a "track" oriented option available at all, so the performance (which this test was based upon) of the base models are the same as the performance of the loaded up models (if not better). I'm sure a 3.8 manual, with an msrp of $25,000 (still 3k over the others) would've been less stellar.
The Hyundai 3.8 track pack is meant to compete with the Mustang GT, specifically, the 2009-2010 V8, as well as the Infiniti G37.

Now, if Hyundai were brave enough to stuff the v8 into the Genesis coupe, that would be interesting. However with their pricing strategy, that would be a Hyundai "pony" car approaching 40k.

Now, this begs the question, what would happen if Ford offered a V6 "track pack" Mustang?

mchicha
04-12-2010, 12:05 PM
Well, when you factor in price, the results would be different.

2010 Dodge Challenger SE, $22,735
2011 Mustang V6 coupe, $22,145
2010 Hyundai 3.8 Track $29,500
2010 Camaro LS $22,680
(Source: Yahoo autos)

IMO, a slanted review using the top of line performance model (at a 7k premium). Even if the loaded up V6's were used from the other makers, they do not have a "track" oriented option available at all, so the performance (which this test was based upon) of the base models are the same as the performance of the loaded up models (if not better). I'm sure a 3.8 manual, with an msrp of $25,000 (still 3k over the others) would've been less stellar.
The Hyundai 3.8 track pack is meant to compete with the Mustang GT, specifically, the 2009-2010 V8, as well as the Infiniti G37.

Now, if Hyundai were brave enough to stuff the v8 into the Genesis coupe, that would be interesting. However with their pricing strategy, that would be a Hyundai "pony" car approaching 40k.

Now, this begs the question, what would happen if Ford offered a V6 "track pack" Mustang?

EXACTLY!! and ignoring the Hyundai's real competation, the Z-Car, no one looking at American muscle will troop over to a Hyundai store for the most part. They may, but its rare.
Even Camaro and Mustang or Challenger buyers will normally buy out of religious royalty more than 'whats better'... rarely will a drag strip battle occur in absense of some modifications...

Colvindesign
04-12-2010, 05:03 PM
EXACTLY!! and ignoring the Hyundai's real competation, the Z-Car, no one looking at American muscle will troop over to a Hyundai store for the most part. They may, but its rare.
Even Camaro and Mustang or Challenger buyers will normally buy out of religious royalty more than 'whats better'... rarely will a drag strip battle occur in absense of some modifications...

Then they would need to compare it to the $39,190 Nismo 370Z.
Then is that a fair fight? IOW a 7k difference is acceptable, but a 12k one is not?
Or, a more accurate comparo would be to pit it against the $29,645 2011 Mustang GT. Being a whopping 145 dollar difference.


However I do wish Ford and Chevy would come up with performance packs for their V6 models.

timmm55
04-12-2010, 05:25 PM
The Mustang cost less and beat the others in all of the many tests except ONE, where it came in 2nd. IMHO Hyundai paid for the article, magazines are advertising dependent, so and they had a predetermined "logic" where the Genesis would win. Pure BS.

Who cares? It's MT, COTY is a joke anyway, as are all their tests.

Colvindesign
04-12-2010, 05:38 PM
The Mustang cost less and beat the others in all of the many tests except ONE, where it came in 2nd. IMHO Hyundai paid for the article, magazines are advertising dependent, so and they had a predetermined "logic" where the Genesis would win. Pure BS.

Who cares? It's MT, COTY is a joke anyway, as are all their tests.

I was thinking the same thing, I wonder how much ad revenue Hyundai has pumped into their publication........

ndwariga
04-12-2010, 06:34 PM
Then they would need to compare it to the $39,190 Nismo 370Z.
Then is that a fair fight? IOW a 7k difference is acceptable, but a 12k one is not?
Or, a more accurate comparo would be to pit it against the $29,645 2011 Mustang GT. Being a whopping 145 dollar difference.


However I do wish Ford and Chevy would come up with performance packs for their V6 models.$7k is a lot of dough.. I can have a well used PT cruiser Turbo for that kind of money.

Logans Run
04-13-2010, 05:44 AM
Just seeing the V6 Mustang being taken seriously now is great news. The 2010 V6 wouldn't even have been cosidered for this test.

Colvindesign
04-13-2010, 06:57 AM
ndwariga...... Or a used 1991-1993 notch back LX 5.0 in really nice shape.

Lagans Run....... Very true. I was hollering for Ford to put the 3.5 in the stang years ago when it was about 260hp, and bump the 4.6L up to about 350. using the 4.0L SOHC 200 hp truck motor when they had a lighter more efficient more powerful 3.5L 260-270 hp V6 was........ well it was stupid. Especially considering the Mustang is a performance car, and the V6 model is supposed to be the fuel efficient model. It was a FAIL on all fronts. Hopefully, Ford will stick with this V6 and refine it for years to come.

sjhu77
04-20-2010, 05:32 PM
Well, when you factor in price, the results would be different.

2010 Dodge Challenger SE, $22,735
2011 Mustang V6 coupe, $22,145
2010 Hyundai 3.8 Track $29,500
2010 Camaro LS $22,680
(Source: Yahoo autos)

Even if the loaded up V6's were used from the other makers, they do not have a "track" oriented option available at all, so the performance (which this test was based upon) of the base models are the same as the performance of the loaded up models (if not better).

Now, this begs the question, what would happen if Ford offered a V6 "track pack" Mustang?


However I do wish Ford and Chevy would come up with performance packs for their V6 models.

:confused: :confused:
Since the official press release around the 2009 LA Auto Show, Ford has said there would be a V6 performance package.

:confused: :confused:
The Mustang in the Motor Trend comparison that is linked in the 1st post is a Mustang with this package.

falcon lover
04-21-2010, 06:28 AM
Hyundai pony car?
Bullshit!

MaxLegroom
05-12-2010, 07:15 AM
And if you read Car and Driver, the new Mustang V6 beat the Camaro V6, which had already seen off the Hyundai Genesis V6 on several grounds, refinement and value among them. I already consider the Genesis coupe a non-entity, better than the Challenger SE mainly in that it at least can be had with a manual.