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megeebee
07-12-2007, 04:50 PM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=121668

wingsnut
07-12-2007, 05:07 PM
In GMi today, Igor mentioned the availability of a new D37 PFI variant of the current D35 PFI engine for 2008 model. It will be coupled to a 6-speed from the current Explorer combination w/ 292hp.

B.R.
07-12-2007, 08:25 PM
I think it could be a big mistake if the previous motors are carried over, because all of the F-150s competition offers alot more power. The only thing now will Ford affer the 6 spd auto for this truck with the 5.4?

igor
07-13-2007, 09:06 AM
The truck will launch in the fall of 2008 (as a 2009 model) with:
4V DOHC PFI 3.7l V6 (about 280 ft.lbf at 2000 rpm) (not sure about transmission)
3V SOHC PFI 4.6l V8 with 6speed auto (Explorer combo - 292 hp and 300 lb.-ft)
3V SOHC PFI 5.4l 6speed auto (Expedition combo - 300 hp and 365 lb.-ft ) - likely with somewhat more power than this (about 325hp and 380lb-ft)
NO BOSS ENGINES

2009 1/2 Model (Februaury 2009) will add:
2V SOHC PFI 6.2l V8 BOSS engine (iron block, aluminium head) with 6speed auto (425hp)

2010 Model (fall 2009) will add:
DOHC 4.4l Common Rail Diesel with CGI block (315hp and 520 lb-ft)
4V DOHC TT DI 3.5l V6 - Twin Turbocharged Direct injected (Twin Force - 350hp, 380 lb-ft at 2000 rpm)

2011 or 2012 model will add:
4V DOHC TT TIVCT DI 6.2l V8 - Twin independent variable cam timing, twin turbocharged, direct injected (Twin Force - over 650 lb - ft)

My sources are better than Edmunds' .. and I posted this before they did .. in short - their source confused the BASE v6 and 6.2l v8 availability with the TWIN FORCE availbality for those engines

The truck will launch with the 3.7l V6, the 6.2l V8 will be 6 months late, and the Twin Force 3.5l V6 and the Diesel will be 12 months late.

Igor

SobeSVT
07-13-2007, 09:32 AM
OK this is what I have gathered from a bunch of sources:


The truck will launch in 2008 with:
4V DOHC PFI 3.7l V6 (about 280 ft.lbf at 2000 rpm) (not sure about transmission)
3V SOHC 4.6l V8 with 6speed auto (Explorer combo - 292 hp and 300 lb.-ft)
3V SOHC 5.4l 6speed auto (Expedition combo - 300 hp and 365 lb.-ft ) - likely with somewhat more power than this (about 325hp and 380lb-ft)
NO BOSS ENGINES

2009 1/2 Model (Februaury 2009) will add:
2V SOHC 6.2l V8 BOSS engine with 6speed auto (425hp)

2010 Model (fall 2009) will add:
DOHC 4.4l Common Rail Diesel with CGI block (315hp and 520 lb-ft)
4V DOHC 3.5l V6 - Twin Turbocharged Direct injected (Twin Force - 350hp, 380 lb-ft at 2000 rpm)

2011 or 2012 model will add:
4V DOHC 6.2l V8 - Twin independent variable cam timing, twin turbocharged, direct injected (Twin Force - over 650 lb - ft)

My sources are better than Edmunds' .. and I posted this before they did .. in short - their source confused the BASE v6 and 6.2l v8 availability with the TWIN FORCE availbality for those engines

The truck will launch with the 3.7l V6, the 6.2l V8 will be 6 months late, and the Twin Force 3.5l V6 and the Diesel will be 12 months late.

Igor

Basically, what igor is saying is the most accurate info at this point.

ndwariga
07-13-2007, 09:34 AM
Ford will have no problem selling the F150 even without the most powerful motor. Like the Titan proved, and the Tundra is proving, Motor is not everything.

igor
07-13-2007, 09:49 AM
^^^ If Ford passes 380ft.lbs for the 5.4l they will still have the strongest engine on the market .. even if it lacks HP .. and as the Expedition proved .. really the only thing the 5.4l needs is a 6speed to wake up ..

oh and the DOHC 4V 6.2l Twin Force will be an incredible monster .. I cannot even imagine the power ..

Finally did yo uall hear of the "Project 777"? 7.0l V8, 700hp @ 7000 rpm - all NA, no DI, no VCT .. nothing .. just an amazing engine. Ford has this in a Mustang mule, and while they only built this as a test for the BOSS internals, they will drop it in the Mustang if Dodge or Chevrolet drop some ridiculous power into the Challenger or Camaro ..


Igor

SobeSVT
07-13-2007, 10:11 AM
^^^ If Ford passes 380ft.lbs for the 5.4l they will still have the strongest engine on the market .. even if it lacks HP .. and as the Expedition proved .. really the only thing the 5.4l needs is a 6speed to wake up ..

oh and the DOHC 4V 6.2l Twin Force will be an incredible monster .. I cannot even imagine the power ..

Finally did yo uall hear of the "Project 777"? 7.0l V8, 700hp @ 7000 rpm - all NA, no DI, no VCT .. nothing .. just an amazing engine. Ford has this in a Mustang mule, and while they only built this as a test for the BOSS internals, they will drop it in the Mustang if Dodge or Chevrolet drop some ridiculous power into the Challenger or Camaro ..


Igor
Never heard of 777 before but sounds like celestial music to my ears. An insurance policy just in case. Nice . . . . I like the new attitude at Ford

Philsshon
07-13-2007, 11:02 AM
thanks igor for the clarification. It sounds like the 09 f-150 should be able to keep the sales lead. :)

wingsnut
07-13-2007, 11:04 AM
There is a lot of powertrain work going on at Ford.
That much I can confirm.

I also understand that the GTTDI D35 engine that was in an F-150 mule, had more torque than a current Hemi. Much flatter torque curve too, with more total work (area under the curve) as well.

Not bad for a fuel efficient V6, ehhh?
Imagine that in an F-100 that is much lighter (especially with no cast iron V8) with a slight performance slant as well. Sort of a poor-man's Lightning. Probably easier to insure too.

B.R.
07-15-2007, 02:46 PM
The truck will launch in the fall of 2008 (as a 2009 model) with:
4V DOHC PFI 3.7l V6 (about 280 ft.lbf at 2000 rpm) (not sure about transmission)
3V SOHC PFI 4.6l V8 with 6speed auto (Explorer combo - 292 hp and 300 lb.-ft)
3V SOHC PFI 5.4l 6speed auto (Expedition combo - 300 hp and 365 lb.-ft ) - likely with somewhat more power than this (about 325hp and 380lb-ft)
NO BOSS ENGINES

2009 1/2 Model (Februaury 2009) will add:
2V SOHC PFI 6.2l V8 BOSS engine (iron block, aluminium head) with 6speed auto (425hp)

2010 Model (fall 2009) will add:
DOHC 4.4l Common Rail Diesel with CGI block (315hp and 520 lb-ft)
4V DOHC TT DI 3.5l V6 - Twin Turbocharged Direct injected (Twin Force - 350hp, 380 lb-ft at 2000 rpm)

2011 or 2012 model will add:
4V DOHC TT TIVCT DI 6.2l V8 - Twin independent variable cam timing, twin turbocharged, direct injected (Twin Force - over 650 lb - ft)

My sources are better than Edmunds' .. and I posted this before they did .. in short - their source confused the BASE v6 and 6.2l v8 availability with the TWIN FORCE availbality for those engines

The truck will launch with the 3.7l V6, the 6.2l V8 will be 6 months late, and the Twin Force 3.5l V6 and the Diesel will be 12 months late.

Igor

My god, if this is all true (which it sounds like), Toyota might as well just stop making the Tundra, these motors and transmissions will absolutely kill it. :)

escapen
10-02-2007, 05:09 PM
thanks igor for the clarification. It sounds like the 09 f-150 should be able to keep the sales lead. :)

Yea same, i woundnt worry about a sales slump if horsepower is an issue, the F150 now has the least hp of any competitor and with a 6 speed in the 09', the GMT trucks will be left in the dust from Ford, Dodge and the Japanese

hodges710
12-23-2008, 10:44 AM
Hello, hope all is well. After doing some reading of other posts and doing some checking with some Ford Dealerships themselfs, who ever is saying that Ford doesn't have any BOSS engines in their line up, please stop. Ford has a 6.2 BOSS engine available.