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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-05-2018, 05:42 PM
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Chevy announced the HDs would be shown at the Texas State Fair. Remember the Ford SuperDuty took 2 years to catch up to the 2015 F-150 so GM's timeline is still considerably faster.

As for luxury trucks, there's no question the RAM and GM trucks make Ford look like they are standing still, from design to amenities to sophisticated suspension systems, if you want to pay money for an expensive truck you definitely shouldn't be looking at the Ford this generation unless it's a Raptor. And of course, RAM has two hybrid drivetrains which might kick the pants off of EcoBoost for economy and torque. And that's where GM is definitely behind Ford, engines. Ford has the best gas-burners in the world.
And GM will continue to make the truck Ford's 20 year Super Duty outsold for another 15 months..........

The T1XX 2500/3500's won't be sold in-mass until late Q3, Q4 2019.


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They make Ford look like it's standing still? Really? Come on man. You have some good points sometimes, but others like this, you take the exaggerations to the extreme.

Again, I would hope that the truck that's all new just revealed a few days ago (and a month ago for the Ram) would leapfrog the truck that dates back to a 2015 full redesign and 2018 refresh.

If there's one segment where Ford is never "standing still", it's the trucks. They'll be all new in 2 years as well.
Silao, where all the 1/2 ton Crew-Cabs come out of, doesn't start making T1XX's until the 3rd week of December, it's easily a year from today before GM starts selling a lot the the T1XX's (Crew Cab) we saw at the NAIAS 2 months ago (and Sierra last week).

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Assimilator your way off on the ride quality. Itís clear you have not driven a 2018 F150. In all of the reviews the 2018 F150 comes out on top and, Car and Driver clearly stated that the 2018 F150 is the best compromise in ride. Chevy is dead last in ride quality. My diehard GM friend bought a GMC Z71 and that has to be the roughest riding truck I have ever been in period. Ford has had more advance technology in their trucks that the other two are just getting around too. With automatic braking to name just one thing. When talking the safest Truck, the Ford is the only one to past the insurance highway safety institute test. The Chevy and Dodge both failed the IHSI test. Now Ford has the upper hand in large SUV's with the new NAVI and Expedition beating the GM twins in all the test. Its Dodge and Chevy that needed to catch up and they are still behind. Will not know how these new 2019 GM and Dodges pan out for a few months and Ford's 2019 is not out yet either.
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Assimilator your way off on the ride quality. Itís clear you have not driven a 2018 F150. In all of the reviews the 2018 F150 comes out on top and, Car and Driver clearly stated that the 2018 F150 is the best compromise in ride. Chevy is dead last in ride quality. My diehard GM friend bought a GMC Z71 and that has to be the roughest riding truck I have ever been in period. Ford has had more advance technology in their trucks that the other two are just getting around too. With automatic braking to name just one thing. When talking the safest Truck, the Ford is the only one to past the insurance highway safety institute test. The Chevy and Dodge both failed the IHSI test. Now Ford has the upper hand in large SUV's with the new NAVI and Expedition beating the GM twins in all the test. Its Dodge and Chevy that needed to catch up and they are still behind. Will not know how these new 2019 GM and Dodges pan out for a few months and Ford's 2019 is not out yet either.
I can't speak for the 2018 changes in the frame and steering, but he is dead on for the 15-17 models. I do think at the moment they are the best trucks out there......especially safety wise......but there were corners cut in going to the aluminum trucks....or at least it feels like it. I've always wondered why more though wasn't put into the beds of trucks.....now it looks like it will be happening. If you use your truck as a truck, the new tailgate system on the GMC can be useful.....of course we don't know until we see it in action......but there is much room for improvement there over a step. The new trucks will surely put some pressure on Ford.
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I can see where this tailgate could be useful, but the more moving parts, the more likely something will bend, break, or get clogged with debris.
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