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Here is how the 2017 Ford Fusion did in comparison to the 2018 Camry.


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And sorry xD No safety form is complete without this:


This one scared the **** out of me when I started watching IIHS on YouTube.
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Re: Ford's Up/Down Safety Ratings ...Only Conti made the List :thumb:

I remember this from a while back.

https://www.carscoops.com/2017/06/ki...quality-study/

I don't remember what reminded me of it.

Good job Ford for scoring 4th place overall and 2nd Non-Luxury for initial quality.

Here's an article about how they scored so high. I hope they're able to keep it up! I'm surprised they overthrew Toyota.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...dpower-ranking

I don't remember if I asked this (if at all). How much does the IQS matter to you?

Your next job, Ford is to turn this around:



I believe in you!

What are everyone's thoughts on IQS and the Dependability Survey? (Also Consumer Reports)?
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The 2018 JD Power VDS has been published, and (yay!) Ford has moved up! But so has the industry average...Now at 142 from 156 last year.

2018 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study rankings

Lexus 99 (problems per 100 vehicles)

Porsche 100

Buick 116

Infiniti 120

Kia 122

Chevrolet 124

Hyundai 124

BMW 127

Toyota 127

Lincoln 133

Nissan 133

Honda 140

Audi 141

Industry Average 142

Mazda 144

Mercedes-Benz 147

Ford 152

Mini 153

GMC 156

Volkswagen 157

Acura 159

Jaguar 159

Volvo 162

Dodge 166

Ram 167

Subaru 167

Mitsubushi 173

Cadillac 186

Jeep 188

Fiat 192

Land Rover 204

Chrysler 211

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It's amazing how much Hyundai/Kia have flipped the script from worst to best in terms of both safety and quality. Detroit is definitely the least consistent.

Ford has several problems with IIHS, most of their products can't score good on their small overlap tests. The other problem is the lack of standard (or available) emergency auto-braking which is something the Japanese and Koreas have really pioneered. But I really think IIHS should start testing those systems as well (if they haven't already), it's possible they aren't all equal. Ford is now making the tech standard fairly quickly across the line starting in 2019. It's another case of being late but rolling out on a bigger scale once they show up. And I'm willing to bet Ford has a pretty good system. Their crashworthiness is another issue unfortunately, there's no getting around the reality of bad safety engineering if you flunk those tests while your competitors ace them. They simply made the choice not to prioritize this type of metric but are responding well to regulatory and 3rd party scrutiny and competition. This is why Ford needs a ton of scrutiny for motivation (remember the huge discrepancy in F-150 crashworthiness because of the undisclosed optional reinforcements?). The other problem are Ford's atrocious headlights, which are all equally terrible no matter what kind of fixture you get, but since Lincoln can do better with Continental than it stands to reason it's cost related rather than expertise.

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Glad to see Ford and Lincoln both with significantly less PP100.




As for the Top Pick + , I've driven Fords for over 35 years, and have never had headlight issues of any sort.

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Re: Ford's Up/Down Safety Ratings ...Only Conti made the List :thumb:

Also good to see Lincoln above the Industry average. I'm guessing the reason Ford isn't quite there yet because the issues with the Focus and Fiesta need to subside. the MK4 Focus is critical for their VDS ranking. Once that happens and the Focus gets a new transmission, and the Fiesta goes away, I expect them to be very high on this list.


I might even see 2nd Place in Ford's future.


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Kia XXX)

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I don't want anyone hurt though. I just want to see Toyota with their pants down.
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Re: Ford's Up/Down Safety Ratings ...Only Conti made the List :thumb:

Tesla no longer participates in merely-terrestrial ratings,
Earthling


JDP's PREDICTABLE Dependability Study

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- Matt Posky - February 14, 2018


...suspiciously absent from J.D. Power’s listings was Tesla Motors. The study made no mention of the electric brand whatsoever. When questioned, Power explained that the automaker had not provided access to owner information, adding that a sufficiently large sample was unavailable for Tesla models to be included in the study...

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