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My BMW has to have premium, so it was $3.67/gal at Chevron today, or over $50 to fill-up for the week compared with less than $10 for electricity for the same range. And it's those buying the new turbocharged engines for the higher mpg and power that need to buy premium. Like PHEVs.

The incentive for the power company to spend on battery pack based upgrades, is that they cost millions and millions less than building another coal or nuclear plant, and takes months instead of years to build and go live. This is why the recent new peaker plants that went live are all battery based(storing the energy when demand is low and delivering it when demand is nigher).

In states like yours that have no off peak rates, consumers are going with solar and powerwalls to get themselves off the grid. Because all day when no one is home, the house is storing power in the battery pack to be used in the evening when homeowners return. Reducing or eliminating the need to pull from the grid. It is the solar/battery storage trend with consumers and businesses and school systems, along with charging networks like Superchargers that are going solar/powerpacks, that has power companies worried about their future and resisting off peak rates along with allowing homeowners/businesses to sell back extra power from their solar systems.

The oil and power/coal companies know this, and why both are investing in wind/solar farms and public charging.
To prevent a big damages to the power companies, here in Spain the people that produce their own electricity with solar panels must pay “el impuesto al sol” (the sun tax). This tax let power companies to continue receiving money from the customers by the infrastructure. The customer can’t let the grid, can’t stop to pay. They can sell energy to the power company, but must pay for the infrastructure. And that is a big disadvantage for the customers that want to get solar panels and save money in Spain.

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Holy crap, a 'sun tax".

Just goes to show you, utility companies will stop at nothing to ensure their livelihood, even as they invest and transition to other energy sources.
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That sounds a bit like the tax/fees EV owners have to pay in many states in the US, to help pay for the roads they use, but don't pay with buying gasoline. The PHEV owners really get screwed because they pay the extra tax/fee along with the tax on the gas they still have to buy.

So in Spain, it seems like if those that can afford solar get off the grid, those that can't, won't be able to support maintaining the grid that must be 'available' to everyone when needed.
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Paris riots should be a template for what not to do - screw the common man because you have a hard-on for fossil fuels, and you want to impress your climate change alarmist pundits.

As we transition to other energy sources, if a socialst democrat enters office, and decides they want to veer from the great country we currently are to anything that is much less by jacking up our taxes and forcing our hand for similar political agendas....... I will be happy to quite my job and protest and riot as needed.
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Just passed Marathon station at Outer Drive and Michigan Ave. this AM, and regular gas price was 2.0799. Woohoo! Reaping more benefits of our country now being a major exporter of energy. Thank you Mr. President.
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