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via TTAC: ...now that Polestar is in the business of building its own standalone models, crossovers and sedans just won’t cut it. For its first Polestar-badged model, the new automaker wants a big, fast coupe.
According to Britain’s Autocar, the brand’s first model will be a sporty coupe, possibly bound for a September reveal at the Frankfurt Auto Show...

Polestar plots 600bhp coupe for inaugural model
Volvo's performance arm is now a standalone brand and a fast two-door coupé, as well as a second model, are being considered

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- Richard Bremner - 13 July 2017

Volvo’s relaunched Polestar division is considering at least one, and possibly two, bespoke performance models with their own bodystyles.

One of these vehicles is understood to be a coupé featuring a high carbonfibre content and a powertrain with around 600bhp. The nature of the second model is unknown.

Volvo relaunched Polestar as a standalone brand last week and confirmed none of its models will wear the Volvo badge. The coupé is tipped to be revealed at the Frankfurt motor show in September.

Suggesting that Polestar’s cars will be heavily based on existing Volvo models, rather than pure standalone vehicles, a Volvo statement said: “Polestar will enjoy specific technological and engineering synergies with Volvo Cars and benefit from significant economies of scale as a result of its connection to Volvo. These synergies will allow it to design, develop and build world-beating electrified highperformance cars.”

However, the investment by Volvo and parent company Geely in two flexible platform architectures for all of its large and small cars does raise the possibility of Polestar developing models that are heavily bespoke. The new S60 saloon, due next year, is one candidate for morphing into a Polestar-only coupé.

Engineering more power will be quite a task, but developing a more bespoke Polestar model is an even bigger commitment and comes at a time when Volvo’s development programme is flat-out.

But there’s no question that an individual Polestar model would generate far more impact than tuned mainstream models, impressive though some of these have already been, and it would make better use of the Polestar operation.

More ambitious plans for Polestar have been under development since Volvo bought the racing and performance tuning brand outright in mid-2015.

Its bespoke models would be powered by hybrid drivetrains. Volvo and Polestar insiders have already confirmed that the brand intends to specialise in high-performance petrol-electric drivetrains.

Hybrid drivetrains will also be used for the high-performance versions of Volvo’s mainstream range, partly to underline the marque’s commitment to plug-in hybrid technology and partly to further distinguish its offerings from those of Mercedes-AMG, BMW’s M division and Audi’s RS brand.

To achieve the 600bhp target, Polestar will need to extract a lot more from the plug-in hybrid drivetrain currently fitted to the XC90 T8, whose supercharged and turbocharged 2.0-litre petrol produces 324bhp and 295lb ft alongside the 81bhp and 177lb ft of an electric motor.

There’s scope for producing a more powerful electric motor, if at the potential expense of range. Polestar insiders have already suggested that some range might be traded for performance.

In a further move that underlines just how keen the company is to differentiate itself from rivals such as BMW M, Audi Sport and Mercedes-AMG, Thomas Ingenlath, formerly Volvo design chief, will become Polestar’s boss. Ingenlath will be joined at Polestar by new chief operating officer Jonathan Goodman, who switches from being Volvo’s communications chief.
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yay! found a place to post this ... s'posed to be shown Sept.6, so guessing in person at Frankfurt


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yay! found a place to post this ... s'posed to be shown Sept.6, so guessing in person at Frankfurt

It'll probably be some ugly overstyled thing as usual for Nissan designs.
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Is the new Focus coming to Frankfurt?
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Is the new Focus coming to Frankfurt?
Hard to say, maybe Ford will skip the IAA, as they did last years Paris Auto Show.

At least nine brands will not attend the next Frankfurt Motor Show in September, amongst which Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Peugeot, Nissan and Volvo. That is what Automotive News Europe and sister publication Automobilwoche gathered. The IAA’s organiser VDA has confirmed that some car makers have cancelled their participation, without giving names.
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Like the AMG GT, these cars look like they have really long front ends. But the AMG has a small 103.5-inch wheelbase and looks like a 911 from the windshield to the rear.



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Ford is coming. According to this brochure, they will be in booth 9. However, they might be more interested in promoting their new Fiesta. I hope the new Focus is ready by then, though.
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just found a 2015 pre-cursor concept at NetCarShow: "IDS" Concept
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Re: Frankfurt: Sept 12/14–24, 2017

Leaked Documents Show Nissan Leaf Will Undercut Model 3, Bolt EV Price
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- Nick Saporito - August 9, 2017


...Autobytel has pulled the documents from their website, but AutoBlog snapped them and still has them live for viewing. In addition to showing a base price of $29,990 for the Leaf S, it also confirms the battery capacity as 40-kWh. At 40-kWh, the Leaf's pack is coming in under both Model S and Bolt EV, but above today's Leaf.
(but under the 50kWh battery of the lowest Tesla Model 3...which goes into production NEXT Year)

The documents also show the new Leaf will have 147 horsepower and 236 pound-feet of torque, a huge jump from today's car, which has 107 horsepower and 187 pound-feet of torque...
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