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Tesla is on fire! Literally...


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But not only the cars, the solar panels too...



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Falcon, you are truly brutal to Tesla's image.

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They say that solar and wind can't even provide 10-20% of the world’s energy needs today, let alone as they forecast a huge energy demand increase in coming decades. And the impact of all the mining needed for the materials for all these solar panels and the batteries to store energy, is no small danger to our planet. Additionally, wind mills have become large scale bird killers, cutting 1.2million in half per year -- today. Imagine when they scale that up. All while scientists continue to disagree on everything. Don't believe the 4 out of 5 dentist’s fallacy many are promoting, that's complete propaganda, fueled by fear and emotion. Talk about a movie of the week, that our elitist lifestyles are pushing the delicate Earth to a point of no return. In the history of the Earth, we are currently living in the 10% coldest cycle, as 90% of Earth’s history has been warmer than it is today, and that CO2 has existed for millions of years 10-fold what it is today. This is according to at least 31K scientists who signed a document conferring this climate science theory.

Anyway, lest anyone reply with a dumb comment about doing nothing as the only other alternative......I am a huge fan of cleaning up our Earth in many ways and leaving a smaller footprint than we do, but I am not a fan of the politically motivated alarmist BS that wants to alter our lifestyles so dramatically, all for a theory that some believe.

Below is a great discussion by a renown climate physicist, who discusses all the above, and taking it one step further, that more CO2 is welcome.

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This will be more dangerous for Tesla than a Walmart´s solar panels fires or a pirotecnic Model 3 that caugh fire alone.....













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This will be more dangerous for Tesla than a Walmart´s solar panels fires or a pirotecnic Model 3 that caugh fire alone.....













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...the Taycan will run you $140k sometime late next year if you get in line now, before “Porsche Optioned” (so figure another $20-30k on top). The Model S you can pick up for, right now, $80k...with 370mi of range that the Porsche will lag considerably.

The Porsche looks fantastic. Love to have one, but the price is eye-wateringingly high. Still, looks great.
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Well, changed my order to the Mod 3P. What the ****, you only live once. Since my Chevy dealer wanted $5k just to hold my place for maybe a Vette by end of next year, I’ll just spend that $5k on a Performance 3 and have fun those 12 months instead.
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Well, changed my order to the Mod 3P. What the ****, you only live once. Since my Chevy dealer wanted $5k just to hold my place for maybe a Vette by end of next year, I’ll just spend that $5k on a Performance 3 and have fun those 12 months instead.
The good news is Tesla doesn't have Dealerships or waiting rooms, so no worry about your spending countless hours and visits there!

Attraction to the Model 3 is amazing, what is it, certainly not curb appeal.........

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Well, changed my order to the Mod 3P. What the ****, you only live once. Since my Chevy dealer wanted $5k just to hold my place for maybe a Vette by end of next year, I’ll just spend that $5k on a Performance 3 and have fun those 12 months instead.
The good news is Tesla doesn't have Dealerships or waiting rooms, so no worry about your spending countless hours and visits there!

Attraction to the Model 3 is amazing, what is it, certainly not curb appeal.........
...I don’t get people’s claim that the 3 has no curb appeal. My deep blue Model 3 P is pretty stunning in person. It looks as good as any small sports sedan on the road. Better than any gape mouthed Mercedes, Infiniti, or Lexus (LC excluded), for sure...and it smokes all of them.
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Ummm... I feel more excited with this ...
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Ummm... I feel more excited with this ...
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...big words coming from a guy who is buying a gutless tin can Mercedes.

“The A-Class, especially with the enormo-screen option, has the potential to be a feelgood car. It’s solid, quiet if you don’t nail it, smooth-riding if you spec carefully, well-made, safe. There’s more affirmation in the fact that if you buy a Mercedes-Benz, no-one will question you.

But pick away at it and the argument has holes. The small petrol engine might be all-new but it’s unrefined and not even very economical. The A180d is a bit of a slug. The cornering is none too engaging. Back-seat room is nothing special. In these fundamentals, it hasn’t moved the class on.

Still, it doesn’t pander to the traditional road-test criteria. It has some real wow factor with the connectivity, which to some people is a greater priority than any of that ‘handling’ palaver. If you look at the way most people drive, the A-Class probably does what will make them happy. When its rivals catch up in terms of screen acreage, though, it could be in serious trouble.”

Who is driving the appliance? The one whose entire draw is LCD screens or the sports sedan that outruns an M3? LOL!
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...big words coming from a guy who is buying a gutless tin can Mercedes.

“The A-Class, especially with the enormo-screen option, has the potential to be a feelgood car. It’s solid, quiet if you don’t nail it, smooth-riding if you spec carefully, well-made, safe. There’s more affirmation in the fact that if you buy a Mercedes-Benz, no-one will question you.

But pick away at it and the argument has holes. The small petrol engine might be all-new but it’s unrefined and not even very economical. The A180d is a bit of a slug. The cornering is none too engaging. Back-seat room is nothing special. In these fundamentals, it hasn’t moved the class on.

Still, it doesn’t pander to the traditional road-test criteria. It has some real wow factor with the connectivity, which to some people is a greater priority than any of that ‘handling’ palaver. If you look at the way most people drive, the A-Class probably does what will make them happy. When its rivals catch up in terms of screen acreage, though, it could be in serious trouble.”

Who is driving the appliance? The one whose entire draw is LCD screens or the sports sedan that outruns an M3? LOL!


My father had a beautiful cream color 250S from 1963 (the year I was born). The memories in that car are spectacular. I have not found the quality, the safety that a Mercedes-Benz gave in any other car. And that is a good reason to buy an A-Class.


I don't have to explain in rational words why I have decided to buy a Mercedes-Benz. It is a purchase, more than rational (which it is also), emotional. And that is what it is about. In the city where I live, public transport is excellent, so having a car is something that has more to do with passion than with reason. I know that the A-Class is not the best or the most efficient or the most powerfull compact car sold in Europe, but it is the one that causes me the most. It is the one that arouses more emotion and enthusiasm. Is like purchase a pony car like a Mustang. There are many cars that can go faster in a more efficient way than a Mustang (a Tesla Model 3 can do it of course...) , but the emotion that involve to own a Mustang is incomparable with anything else. For me, a Tesla, however, is a refrigerator or a mixer. No matter it is faster than a M3 or a Ferrari. For me, is only a good home appliance...










P.S.: And in your textual quote about the few things in wich the A-Class is good (“The A-Class, especially with the enormo-screen option, has the potential to be a feelgood car. It’s solid, quiet if you don’t nail it, smooth-riding if you spec carefully, well-made, safe"), there is at least one word that reflects what a Mercedes-Benz is and not a Tesla: well made. That give me the advantage!

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