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Tesla stock tanked today. Continues it's downward slide at 197. December was around 380. Yikes

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Tesla stock tanked today. Continues it's downward slide at 197. December was around 380. Yikes



... And could go down to 10$... read this: https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/21/...organ-stanley/

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... and more bad news.... Your Tesla car in autopilot can make illegal turns or dangerous maneuvers...




https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/22/...nsafe-illegal/






P.S.: sorry for the Tesla lovers in this site...

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More Tesla news. This are not bad.... at all


Motor Trend compared the Tesla model 3 with BMW 3 series and Genesis G70, a sport sedan comparo. At some points of the article, the magazine call them "luxury compact sedans". But everybody here know what I think about call the Tesla model 3 a "luxury car". In fact, one editor say that the interior is not a luxury interior... and you can see why in the next picture:





.... and Motor Trend say the number one of this comparo is the Tesla. Why? Because it is fast. Thats all. No more reasons. Is the fastest in the 0-60 acceleration test, Tesla: 4.0 BMW: 5.4 , Genesis: 6.2 Of course, the Tesla is more powerful than the others: 346 vs BMW 255 and Genesis 252 hp. Of course, a more powerful BMW exist, but it is not the intent of Motor Trend to give Tesla the opportunity to lose the comparison . A more powerful BMW will cost more, but the quality of the car, the real luxury appointments and the brand cachet justify the money, IMO.



Whatever... Tesla lovers have more arguments to continue loving these refrigerators on wheels...


The link: http://https://www.motortrend.com/ca...mparison-test/

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Tesla sends e-Mail suggesting production ramp at Fremont. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-tsla...t-hiring-ramp/

Further: Tesla built an 870,000sq ft building that watchers assumed would be a distribution center. Earlier Tesla announced Model Y would proceed at Fremont.

Flyovers at the Lathrop facility (the new building) shows new cars sitting outside the facility including, most strangely, a metal roofed Model S that has been discontinued since ‘17.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-lath...nal-stage/amp/

Last, Tesla job postings for Lathrop include pano-roof individuals, another option that hasn’t been available in at least a year on the S.

Reasonable conclusion? Tesla moving Model S/X to Lathrop and installing Y alongside Mod 3, since they share 75% of their parts. The move will thus allow Tesla to offer more options again on the S/X. Just a guess, but it seems to explain all recent events.
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I am enjoying the impressive solitude from Tesla haters as of late. Where have all of you doomsayers went?


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I am enjoying the impressive solitude from Tesla haters as of late. Where have all of you doomsayers went?





Oh , dear, I´m here. I want to talk about the negative from Tesla to refresh or redesign the Model S and Model X because they don´t have the money.... but is very boring to talk about Tesla and its refrigerators on wheels. Almost as boring as seeing those cars... https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/08/te...1f2BUYZVwl4FPA


In the good side of the news from Tesla, they are producing many cars... and that is good. This will retard the banckruptcy. Maybe 2 or 3 years, until the others automakers start producing really good EVs, in a massive numbers...




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I am enjoying the impressive solitude from Tesla haters as of late. Where have all of you doomsayers went?





Oh , dear, I´m here. I want to talk about the negative from Tesla to refresh or redesign the Model S and Model X because they don´t have the money.... but is very boring to talk about Tesla and its refrigerators on wheels. Almost as boring as seeing those cars... https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/08/te...1f2BUYZVwl4FPA


In the good side of the news from Tesla, they are producing many cars... and that is good. This will retard the banckruptcy. Maybe 2 or 3 years, until the others automakers start producing really good EVs, in a massive numbers...



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The 2nd half of 2019 will not be the best time to start laying plans for Tesla’s demise. It will be a string of big news from now until the end of the year.
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The 2nd half of 2019 will not be the best time to start laying plans for Tesla’s demise. It will be a string of big news from now until the end of the year.



22 millions of EVs in the next decade. Only from the VW group.



This is overwhelming. Tesla will not survive to this kind of competition.



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Directly unrelated to topic, but certainly tangentially related, the link below is an exceptional read regarding energy use and the impact on society.

THE “NEW ENERGY ECONOMY”: AN EXERCISE IN MAGICAL THINKING

https://media4.manhattan-institute.o.../R-0319-MM.pdf

Executive Summary:

A movement has been growing for decades to replace hydrocarbons, which collectively supply 84% of the world’s energy. It began with the fear that we were running out of oil. That fear has since migrated to the belief that, because of climate change and other environmental concerns, society can no longer tolerate burning oil, natural gas, and coal—all of which have turned out to be abundant.

So far, wind, solar, and batteries—the favored alternatives to hydrocarbons—provide about 2% of the world’s energy and 3% of America’s. Nonetheless, a bold new claim has gained popularity: that we’re on the cusp of a tech-driven energy revolution that not only can, but inevitably will, rapidly replace all hydrocarbons.

This “new energy economy” rests on the belief—a centerpiece of the Green New Deal and other similar proposals both here and in Europe—that the technologies of wind and solar power and battery storage are undergoing the kind of disruption experienced in computing and communications, dramatically lowering costs and increasing efficiency. But this core analogy glosses over profound differences, grounded in physics, between systems that produce energy and those that produce information.

In the world of people, cars, planes, and factories, increases in consumption, speed, or carrying capacity cause hardware to expand, not shrink. The energy needed to move a ton of people, heat a ton of steel or silicon, or grow a ton of food is determined by properties of nature whose boundaries are set by laws of gravity, inertia, friction, mass, and thermodynamics—not clever software.

This paper highlights the physics of energy to illustrate why there is no possibility that the world is undergoing— or can undergo—a near-term transition to a “new energy economy.”

Among the Reasons:

--Scientists have yet to discover, and entrepreneurs have yet to invent, anything as remarkable as hydrocarbons in terms of the combination of low-cost, high-energy density, stability, safety, and portability. In practical terms, this means that spending $1 million on utility-scale wind turbines, or solar panels will each, over 30 years of operation, produce about 50 million kilowatt-hours (kWh)—while an equivalent $1 million spent on a shale rig produces enough natural gas over 30 years to generate over 300 million kWh.


--Solar technologies have improved greatly and will continue to become cheaper and more efficient. But the era of 10-fold gains is over. The physics boundary for silicon photovoltaic (PV) cells, the Shockley-Queisser Limit, is a maximum conversion of 34% of photons into electrons; the best commercial PV technology today exceeds 26%.


--Wind power technology has also improved greatly, but here, too, no 10-fold gains are left. The physics boundary for a wind turbine, the Betz Limit, is a maximum capture of 60% of kinetic energy in moving air; commercial turbines today exceed 40%.


--The annual output of Tesla’s Gigafactory, the world’s largest battery factory, could store three minutes’ worth of annual U.S. electricity demand. It would require 1,000 years of production to make enough batteries for two days’ worth of U.S. electricity demand. Meanwhile, 50–100 pounds of materials are mined, moved, and processed for every pound of battery produced.

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