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Yeah, well...I'll believe it when I see it. 2022 is typically beyond their product planning cycle so much has to happen in-between which is mysteriously not mentioned at all...
imho, ^THAT^ proves the year is BOGUS

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Wish I could find one with all 8 but for now this will have to do

Some of my most favorite Lincoln's in that picture. This is fantastic news by the way. I just wish it would happen faster.

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It could be based on just about anything. That's a very far date. It's definitely not Mustang-based. If it were, we would have seen it by now. It could be CD4, though. The new Continental will be receiving its MCE around that time, anyway.

I guess that's another sign of Flat Rock becoming the new Wixom.
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Not remotely excited. With the excellent S550 platform they couldn't come up with a Mark IX to add some excitement to their showrooms? There is zero reason why they couldn't have come up with an honest 6-Series/E-Class Coupe competitor while also bringing some excitement to the brand that nothing else outside of the Continental could bring. If they didn't have a capable platform on which to build a new Mark then I would understand, but with the S550 on the road there simply is no excuse IMO.

A legitimate Mark IX and the new Continental followed buy the AlumaGator would have been an exceptional statement!
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It could be based on just about anything. That's a very far date. It's definitely not Mustang-based. If it were, we would have seen it by now. It could be CD4, though. The new Continental will be receiving its MCE around that time, anyway.

I guess that's another sign of Flat Rock becoming the new Wixom.
It could well be 7G Mustang based, in fact that probably makes the most sense as S550 will be ready for retirement by then.
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Not remotely excited. With the excellent S550 platform they couldn't come up with a Mark IX to add some excitement to their showrooms? There is zero reason why they couldn't have come up with an honest 6-Series/E-Class competitor while also bring some excitement to the brand that nothing else outside of the Continental could bring. If they didn't have a capable platform on which to build a new Mark then I would understand, but with the S550 on the road there simply is no excuse IMO.

A legitimate Mark IX and the new Continental followed buy the AlumaGator would have been an exceptional statement!
A platform without AWD is excellent? I can't think of a car that more directly links Lincoln to Ford than a reskin of a Mustang, it would be a monumental mistake. The platform is completely locked to the Mustang and can't be repurposed as anything else, it's not a flexible, or even new, platform. And who exactly is going to buy a reskinned muscle car at Lincoln? I can't think of any product more anomalous for the brand, they might as well bring back the Mark LT to make it abundantly clear they are not serious and are recklessly desperate for cheap thrills and attention. Simply put, the Mustang would make a horrible HORRIBLE Lincoln and nobody would buy it.

Anyway, as I've said, Lincoln very smartly avoided the Mustang for countless reasons and will have a proper coupe when they have the right technology.
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It could be based on just about anything. That's a very far date. It's definitely not Mustang-based. If it were, we would have seen it by now. It could be CD4, though. The new Continental will be receiving its MCE around that time, anyway.

I guess that's another sign of Flat Rock becoming the new Wixom.
I still believe an S550-LincStang was planned
& I'm STILL not ruling it out
BUT
now I'm thinking that D6CD6 might be able to be the MusStang's nextgen platform as well

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decided today:
not aluminNavi
not AlumaGator
but ALUMINATOR


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A platform without AWD is excellent? I can't think of a car that more directly links Lincoln to Ford than a reskin of a Mustang, it would be a monumental mistake. The platform is completely locked to the Mustang and can't be repurposed as anything else, it's not a flexible, or even new, platform. And who exactly is going to buy a reskinned muscle car at Lincoln? I can't think of any product more anomalous for the brand, they might as well bring back the Mark LT to make it abundantly clear they are not serious and are recklessly desperate for cheap thrills and attention. Simply put, the Mustang would make a horrible HORRIBLE Lincoln and nobody would buy it.

Anyway, as I've said, Lincoln very smartly avoided the Mustang for countless reasons and will have a proper coupe when they have the right technology.
Once and for all lets get the re-skinned conversation out of the way. I am not against Ford and Lincoln sharing platforms so long as the platform is of appropriate quality on which to build a truly premium vehicle. The S550 is far more capable of being the base for a modern luxury coupe than CD4 is of being the base for a truly premium sedan.

Neither the 6-Series nor C-Class Coupe are high volume vehicles, but they are high margin image makers. While AWD would be nice to have available on a Mark its not a deal breaker, never has been. If they can suitably differentiate the MKZ from the Fusion, MKC from the Escape, MKX from the Edge, and Continental from the Taurus then it's asinine to even suggest a Mark could not be significantly differentiated from the Mustang. An S550 based Mark would be a sports touring car, not a GT350/GT500 challenger so the muscle car statement is ridiculous.

Finally, BMW is co-developing a sports car platform with Toyota, will that be a monumental mistake? There is ALWAYS going to be a connection between Ford and Lincoln product, the only question is if they will invest enough to make them truly unique.
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^ I love how with any other Ford FWD platform it's a top hat but as soon as someone brings up a Mustang based Lincoln then it's instantly a re-badge and won't work.

I think they could truly make a new top hat from the Mustang for Lincoln but it may be too late at this point. That platform is pretty old as it is.

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^ I love how with any other Ford FWD platform it's a top hat but as soon as someone brings up a Mustang based Lincoln then it's instantly a re-badge and won't work.

I think they could truly make a new top hat from the Mustang for Lincoln but it may be too late at this point. That platform is pretty old as it is.
AGREE, Andrew ......



......as long as they stretch the wheelbase to (near)match the 3er/XE/C/etc

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