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New platform, please!!! Three wheelbase lengths. short one for Mustang, Lincoln C-class sedan and CUV.
Mid-length for MKZ and MKX replacement
Long for Mark IX, Ford Thunderbird, Explorer and Aviator.
Not too much to ask...is it?

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One has to question this Automotive Daily item due to the inaccurate information in the first sentence. First of all there was never a Mark I, it was simply called the Continental. Also it did not start in 1948. The original Continental was approved by Edsel Ford in early 1939 with the first Continental convertibles appearing later the same year. The official first year for the Continental was 1940 with the production of the Continental Coupe and the Continental Cabriolet or Convertible.

It is unacceptable when someone writing an article cannot even get the facts correct. That puts the entire article into question.
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^ just-imhO, after watching more & more Autoline programs,
I don't think of John McElroy as all that precise in his speaking
+ he may have needed to reformulate what he (OR someone else) heard (in bits & pieces?)
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Good Call on that 1948 ...Nuthin' was new in '48 afaik


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New platform, please!!! Three wheelbase lengths. short one for Mustang, Lincoln C-class sedan and CUV.
Mid-length for MKZ and MKX replacement
Long for Mark IX, Ford Thunderbird, Explorer and Aviator.
Not too much to ask...is it?
mostly-agree
I'd just put more emphasis/stretchability on the medium - from LincStangs thru Tbird/Explorer...
...I like the idea of replacing the MKC with a Mustang-related D6CD6 re-

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Limited Edition Continental Mark Series Sketches
found at Lincoln and Continental Owner's Club (LCOC) Western Region
via Jim Ayers on facebook

slightly compressed, not resized, to 1700x990
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I like the idea of the Lincoln Mark IX though I want it to be traditional rear driven coupe/convertible. I seen some people here mentioning a D6/CD6-based Mustang that could be out then that could provide the basis of Mark Ix. Can anyone please correct me if I'm mistaken, but isn't the D6/CD6 platform a front-drive based platform? Why would anyone want Ford to use that for the next Mustang?

I do recall rumors of Ford considering designing that platform to be flexible enough to be transverse-front driven as well as longitudinal-rear driven but I just figured that... rumors. So it can be flexible enough to possibly be the next platform for Mustang and Mark IX? If so, that'd be great. While at it, they could make a rear drive Ford sedan to compete with Dodge Charger. The name be something like Falcon or Fairlane.

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^ ALL we have is rumors afaik, pffan
but
yes, what *I* meant was IF the D6/CD6 (we're not even sure about the name) is capable of ANY drivetrain orientation + be able to cover a wide range of sizes
Then maybe it could be used for the Mustang too



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^ ALL we have is rumors afaik, pffan
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yes, what *I* meant was IF the D6/CD6 (we're not even sure about the name) is capable of ANY drivetrain orientation + be able to cover a wide range of sizes
Then maybe it could be used for the Mustang too
My biggest concern with this idea of a FWD/AWD/RWD all in one platform is will trying to be all things to all people mean they'll be less than competent? GM is making great headway with the Alpha and Omega platforms, they're excellent performing platforms while also being among the lightest in their class, could they do the same while trying to make them FWD/AWD/RWD capable? Ford is taking an already difficult job and making significantly more difficult.
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The rumors make CD6 sound like an outright engineering miracle, ha ha. I still believe it's just a version of CD4 for Explorer and Aviator.

I believe Ford's stance on the universal platform concept is that it sounds good in theory but in practice it doesn't make any sense. At Ford, each new platform is now becoming an offshoot of each other, similar tech and systems but less confines to make it work with all. I would not be surprised if Lincoln gets a variant of a Ford platform for it's next C/D cars and Crossovers.
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My biggest concern with this idea of a FWD/AWD/RWD all in one platform is will trying to be all things to all people mean they'll be less than competent? ... Ford is taking an already difficult job and making significantly more difficult.
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The rumors make CD6 sound like an outright engineering miracle, ha ha. I still believe it's just a version of CD4 for Explorer and Aviator.

I believe Ford's stance on the universal platform concept is that it sounds good in theory but in practice it doesn't make any sense. At Ford, each new platform is now becoming an offshoot of each other, similar tech and systems but less confines to make it work with all. I would not be surprised if Lincoln gets a variant of a Ford platform for it's next C/D cars and Crossovers.
I won't be at all surprised if D6/CD6 keeps some aspects or even parts(bin) from CD4
which
I believe has some parts(bin) from both CD3 and EUCD

All I'd want is for many-many vehicles be ABLE to go down the same assemblyline
which
afaik has Not been the case...in practice, if not in theory

for example & to belabor the point
COULD a FusionZ be made on the EdgeMKX's assemblyline without million$ to make changes('improvements')?
and vice-versa?
or
(since I'm belaboring) could a Taurus/MKS/Explorer share an assemblyline with a Flex/MKT?
even (& I doN'T know): Do the Edge,MKX;Flex,MKT use One or TWO assemblylines up at Oakville?

cuz-&-thus
my concern is largely for Lincoln to be able to Plan for relatively-niche vehicles...
...like a MARK


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I'd really Really like for FLincMoCo to start building 117.9" wlb Mark & Aviator precursors This Year! on what I presume to be an under-used portion of Oakville
re-edit:
(getting slightly worked up over something completely unrelated...) I see NO reason to continue building either the MKS or MKT, as is, effective immediately

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The rumors make CD6 sound like an outright engineering miracle, ha ha. I still believe it's just a version of CD4 for Explorer and Aviator.

I believe Ford's stance on the universal platform concept is that it sounds good in theory but in practice it doesn't make any sense. At Ford, each new platform is now becoming an offshoot of each other, similar tech and systems but less confines to make it work with all. I would not be surprised if Lincoln gets a variant of a Ford platform for it's next C/D cars and Crossovers.
The Mustang will always be RWD, so it's not too far-fetched to believe that any new RWD platform will be more flexible to accommodate Lincoln vehicles. Engineering a whole platform for one vehicle is pretty ridiculous; I'm not sure why Ford even decided to do it for the current generation Mustang.

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