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True enough, BUT in the Conti's case the Concept is a $150,000 wannabe car whereas the production Conti will be a $40,000-$50,000 car and will look like a $40,000 - $50,000 car
That is quite 'subjective' of you.
See, I thought it was a $100,000 wannabe car, when instead it will look like an $85K car in reality, yet only cost $75K in full trim.
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Thanks, RMC, for the pics.....

As much as that new Continental isn't my cup of tea (in terms of FWD), I still want to see that car in person.......


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The Chinese Taurus has a 198.4 ovl - 120 wlb. The Continental will likely have a longer rear section than Taurus however which should get it very close to the CT6 in overall length. The CT6 has a longer Wheelbase which is a characteristic of RWD and the 'luxury gap' between the front-door and wheel arch which the production Continental does not have. The Concept is also a complete work of fiction, none of the production car is actually in there so they lowered the roof, lengthened and widened the wheelbase, which creates an illusion of a longer, lower, and wider car than production. That's how most concepts based on production cars work, they change proportions and surfacing details but stay true to the core design. The idea is to generate attention and energy around a car's design which they wouldn't be able to do based on the production car alone. Lincoln has been successful with this formula so far and expect it to continue.

The CT6 is reported to be 201" long!


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True enough, BUT in the Conti's case the Concept is a $150,000 wannabe car whereas the production Conti will be a $40,000-$50,000 car and will look like a $40,000 - $50,000 car

A couple of months ago I talk with. retired Lincoln GM and his sources said pricing will start in the $55K-$85K!


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A couple of months ago I talk with. retired Lincoln GM and his sources said pricing will start in the $55K-$85K!


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Update after I went back to the show a second time.

Here are some more pictures from the Ford display....I was too lazy to crop them, sorry haha

They had this yellow GT350 right up front:



Also, I completely missed this white Focus RS last time I was there. It was locked.




Finally, here's a collection of pics of the new Super Duty:




Headlight detail


Taillight closeup


Closeup of the Ford badge in the grille with the camera and camera washer (that little slot shape to the right)


Here's the fender vent I mentioned in the opening post.


I thought this FORD detail on the tow mirrors (likely the same on the F-150) was nice:
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I have some more notes on Lincoln as well.

I unfortunately didn't take the opportunity to talk with the Lincoln rep about the Continental (and I wish I had), but I did talk to him a fair amount about the MKX and Black Label. I was impressed with the added "features" that come with Black Label vehicles....and by features I mean the extra perks. Such as them coming to you with color samples, leather samples, wood samples, etc to build your vehicle rather than a typical dealer experience. Also things like the picking up the car and bringing a loaner when service is needed, as well as free car washes anytime, one free full detail a year. The Culinary Collection sounds interesting, but something I probably wouldn't end up using much, but could be interesting to try.

Moving on to the color combos Black Label offers. I like the options, but I don't at the same time. As some of you may or may not know, Black Label vehicles have certain interior themes and exterior colors that correspond with the interior themes. I think it's nice that they have themes, and realize that that makes it easier for them to produce (for instance they can produce theme "1" with the only unique part being the exterior color and options), however, I'm a little disappointed by the limitations I found in the Black Label brochure the rep gave me. Now, maybe I’m not fully understanding it, and perhaps the program is more flexible than the brochure leads me to believe. By limitations, I’m meaning color and interior combinations.

They have 6 themes – Thoroughbred, The Muse, Center Stage, Modern Heritage, Indulgence, and Oasis. Thoroughbred and The Muse are only on MKX, while Center Stage is only available on the MKZ and MKC. The remaining 3 are available on both. Furthermore, Center Stage on the MKZ has a different wood than the MKC. On Modern Heritage (my preference of the available themes, which features a black dash and crème color seats with red stitching and black seat accents), the MKZ and MKC get a fantastic looking black wood with silver strakes in it. However, the MKX gets just a “piano black wood” that in the picture looks like a piece of black plastic. I find that extremely disappointing (maybe I’m hyped up about it because my preferred interior combo doesn’t have the wood I like available. And, for some reason, I can’t get “Notorious” blue on Modern Heritage on the MKX??? Why? Why should that matter? The MKZ and MKC both have “Notorious” blue available on the Modern Heritage. In fact, that blue color is available only on the C and Z Modern Heritage and C and Z Indulgence (a chocolate/brown theme). Now maybe it has to do with the fact that the MKX is new, so they’re not able to offer certain things yet? But it just seemed like there’s some odd omissions and limited options. Maybe I’m overreacting, I don’t know….

This first image shows the 8 different Black Label exterior colors.


Here are the “Thoroughbred,” “The Muse,” and “Center Stage” themes:


Here are the “Modern Heritage,” “Indulgence,” and “Oasis” themes:


To me, a unique program like this should allow full customization – and by that I mean you can offer the “suggested” themes the designers come up with, but also allow a customer to choose whatever leather, wood, and color they want, rather than limiting them to predetermined combos.
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...To me, a unique program like this should allow full customization – and by that I mean you can offer the “suggested” themes the designers come up with, but also allow a customer to choose whatever leather, wood, and color they want, rather than limiting them to predetermined combos.
we've had many convos @ FiN about^^
(I have a fixation on [WhiteLabel] for that...

...easiest links iirc:
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What should be the MKX's LOWest & HIGHest TrimLevel? POLL

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I'm trying to get IN-Person opinions on the [BL] "Crystal Silver" paint
esp. versus Ingot Silver
DID they have it on a vehicle (or have you seen it elsewhere), Rmc???

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I have some more notes on Lincoln as well.

I unfortunately didn't take the opportunity to talk with the Lincoln rep about the Continental (and I wish I had), but I did talk to him a fair amount about the MKX and Black Label. I was impressed with the added "features" that come with Black Label vehicles....and by features I mean the extra perks. Such as them coming to you with color samples, leather samples, wood samples, etc to build your vehicle rather than a typical dealer experience. Also things like the picking up the car and bringing a loaner when service is needed, as well as free car washes anytime, one free full detail a year. The Culinary Collection sounds interesting, but something I probably wouldn't end up using much, but could be interesting to try.

Moving on to the color combos Black Label offers. I like the options, but I don't at the same time. As some of you may or may not know, Black Label vehicles have certain interior themes and exterior colors that correspond with the interior themes. I think it's nice that they have themes, and realize that that makes it easier for them to produce (for instance they can produce theme "1" with the only unique part being the exterior color and options), however, I'm a little disappointed by the limitations I found in the Black Label brochure the rep gave me. Now, maybe I’m not fully understanding it, and perhaps the program is more flexible than the brochure leads me to believe. By limitations, I’m meaning color and interior combinations.

They have 6 themes – Thoroughbred, The Muse, Center Stage, Modern Heritage, Indulgence, and Oasis. Thoroughbred and The Muse are only on MKX, while Center Stage is only available on the MKZ and MKC. The remaining 3 are available on both. Furthermore, Center Stage on the MKZ has a different wood than the MKC. On Modern Heritage (my preference of the available themes, which features a black dash and crème color seats with red stitching and black seat accents), the MKZ and MKC get a fantastic looking black wood with silver strakes in it. However, the MKX gets just a “piano black wood” that in the picture looks like a piece of black plastic. I find that extremely disappointing (maybe I’m hyped up about it because my preferred interior combo doesn’t have the wood I like available. And, for some reason, I can’t get “Notorious” blue on Modern Heritage on the MKX??? Why? Why should that matter? The MKZ and MKC both have “Notorious” blue available on the Modern Heritage. In fact, that blue color is available only on the C and Z Modern Heritage and C and Z Indulgence (a chocolate/brown theme). Now maybe it has to do with the fact that the MKX is new, so they’re not able to offer certain things yet? But it just seemed like there’s some odd omissions and limited options. Maybe I’m overreacting, I don’t know….

This first image shows the 8 different Black Label exterior colors.


Here are the “Thoroughbred,” “The Muse,” and “Center Stage” themes:


Here are the “Modern Heritage,” “Indulgence,” and “Oasis” themes:


To me, a unique program like this should allow full customization – and by that I mean you can offer the “suggested” themes the designers come up with, but also allow a customer to choose whatever leather, wood, and color they want, rather than limiting them to predetermined combos.
I hate how they force you to pick a color and accent, I wish you could mix and match like BMW allows you to. I think that dark purple interior would look great with a nice rich wood trim instead of being forced to have aluminum.
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Re: Continental Concept @ South Florida International Auto Show & more

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Originally PM'ed by rmc523 in Andrew's general direction...

Here's another post for the thread (have I mentioned how annoying this is? haha)

Yes, that's exactly my point - I don't like the idea of being forced to choose one whole theme and not being able to change it to your preferences. I mean, I could understand having "recommended" Black Label themes where the designers paired their preferred combination of materials, but give me the full choice of customization for Black Label (while the regular trims can retain the traditional "here's what we offer, pick one," approach). Hopefully that's something that changes down the road.
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