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With regard to Focus hatch likely leaving the US, it makes sense with the pending availability of subcompact SUVs (although it looks like Ford will be the last to enter this market). Americans just hate hatchbacks, even if it's the best format for this type of compact platform. It's a little ironic considering everybody is basically moving to a hatchback (two-box) crossover anyway.
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With regard to Focus hatch likely leaving the US, it makes sense with the pending availability of subcompact SUVs (although it looks like Ford will be the last to enter this market). Americans just hate hatchbacks, even if it's the best format for this type of compact platform. It's a little ironic considering everybody is basically moving to a hatchback (two-box) crossover anyway.
Without the Focus Hatch in the US at least, the Focus ST and RS will stand out more.
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Without the Focus Hatch in the US at least, the Focus ST and RS will stand out more.
this might be a bit convoluted but

if we apply the rumored flexibility of the D6/CD6 to whatever platform/architecture will be used for the C (+ whatever) segment(s);
thinking maaaaybe there could be more niche-let cars?
ex:
the Focus ST & RS could have a more unique & swoopier body with a wheelbase different from the Focus sedan (which has been rumored/speculated to become longer)
only problem
What about Yurpland?
some parts of it buy MOSTLY hatches
(the parts that buy wagons would/could still be based on the new sedan...
...OR whichEVER? sedan or hatch??)
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wondering if eventually the humongous volume of China could make More variety profitable?

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Merrill Lynch's "Car Wars" Lincoln Predictions

* Ford’s cadence is better than it looks, Murphy says, because its high-volume aluminum F-150 launched before the 2016 “Car Wars” parameter. The report forecasts the new Lincoln Continental and a new Lincoln MKM coupe for MY17. A new Ford Escape, Fiesta, and Focus are due in MY18, along with the Lincoln MKA sedan. A Lincoln Aviator “large lux CUV” is expected in MY19.

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...llion-in-2018/

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-The Continental is obviously a go for MY 2017.

-The Aviator is obviously a go, but many people are expecting a 2018 MY.

-This is the first that I've heard about an MKM (AKA LincStang) in a serious report. I guess it's possible, but Ford would have to be "GT-ing" it.

-An MKA small sedan is a safe bet.

-Oddly, they forgot the Navigator (which is expected to debut next year).

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I don't believe for a second that Ford North America would drop the 5-door Focus. I seem to remember seeing a breakdown in bodystyles and I thought at least 40% of Focuses were 5-doors, and that number seems about right, especially amongst retail sales. Setting raw sales percentages aside, the majority of Titanium models I see are 5-doors, and are thus profitable for the company.

My guess is this report either forgot about the 5-door Focus or just is inconsistently equating "sedan" with "car."
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BREAKING AWAY
The Autoextremist - Rants

By Peter M. De Lorenzo - Monday, October 10, 2016


Detroit. That the winds of change are blowing through this business like the chill of an early fall is no revelation. Some of these winds are dark, brooding and foreboding; others are merely progressions marked by the natural cadence of time.

The business is deep in the throes of a “Je ne sais quoi" moment. The month-to-month sales prognosticators have weighed in because that’s what they’re paid to do, but do they really know what is going to happen in 2017? No. I am quite certain of one thing, however - we’ve reached the cannibalism stage in this current car market. From here on out we will see the major auto manufacturers cram more and more of every incentive imaginable on their cars and trucks to maintain market share, while hopefully taking market share away from their competitors. As you might imagine, it’s going to get ugly before it stops, and the victories will be Pyrrhic, at best.

And while that dance of impending slowness is playing out, we have a mountain of questions to consider that will impact this business for the next 25 years. Defining moments – and technologies - that will transform the industry...

...And then there’s the Lincoln vs. Cadillac battle that’s shaping up right now before our very eyes. Cadillac is being reimagined in the likeness of Audi by longtime U.S. Audi guru Johan de Nysschen, right down to the generic and colorless alphanumeric nomenclature that stands for exactly nothing (except for the Escalade, of course). Take that, combined with an excruciatingly painful advertising campaign that has become so gratingly offensive over time that it’s turning consumers off in droves, and you have an American car company – albeit with some decently executed products - aspiring to be a force in the luxury market but with apparently no frickin’ idea how to effectively market.

On the other side you have Lincoln, which has worn out Matthew McConaughey’s sell-by date quite a while ago but which now has its new Continental coming on line. As I’ve said before, even though the Continental doesn’t boast the technical chops that the Cadillac CT6 has, it has the one thing that Cadillac doesn’t, and that’s a name that resonates across a wide spectrum of consumers. And given that Lincoln’s brain trust has demonstrated marketing and advertising instincts (except for staying with McConaughey too long) that are head and shoulders above the best that Cadillac can muster, don’t be surprised if the Continental emerges as the clear winner in this face-off. The Lincoln marketing troops have already unveiled a presentation that’s far superior to anything Cadillac has done to date with it’s initial foray for the Continental engaging the visual creativity of Annie Leibovitz in That’s Continental.

But then again, does all of this really matter in the Big Picture? Not as much as it once did, that’s for sure. In the American market we’re talking bragging rights only, as it’s clear that the fortunes of both Cadillac and Lincoln will ultimately reside in the Chinese market. But there still is a certain image aura available to Lincoln and Cadillac here. It might be an aura that’s marked by fading light, as the Asian theater swallows everything whole, but it’s a distinctive aura nonetheless. And a very American aura too. And right now Lincoln – or the Lincoln Motor Company as it wants to be known – is definitely showing its taillights to Cadillac in terms of this whole image-wrangling thing.

And let’s forget about the trepidation and hand-wringing associated with the autonomous car movement for the time being...

...We’re on the precipice of a fundamental shift.

The automotive “thing” is breaking away from what has been familiar for more than 125 years...

...it’s going to be jarring and disruptive to a lot of people.

Yes, we will have cars with internal combustion engines for many, many years to come,

but the mainstream car business, as we know it, is breaking away for good...
More & more!...
hey, this
is PdL after all...

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Exclamation the War *ON* Cars

German Lawmakers Vote To Ban Petrol And Diesel Cars By 2030
It could lead to an EU-wide ban on combustion-engine cars.

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Oscar Williams, Tech reporter | 11/10/2016 16:32 | Updated 14 hours ago


German politicians have voted to ban combustion-engine cars by 2030 in an effort to meet emissions targets outlined in the Paris agreement.

The Bundesrat, the federal council of all 16 German states, has passed a resolution to only permit zero-emission vehicles on EU roads.

The EU will need to adopt the resolution for it to come into effect in 14 years, but Forbes reports that German regulation traditionally shapes European law.

Green party lawmaker Oliver Krischer told Der Spiegel: “If the Paris agreement to curb climate-warming emissions is to be taken seriously, no new combustion engine cars should be allowed on roads after 2030.”

The weekly magazine reports that the resolution calls on the EU Commission to “review the current practices of taxation and dues with regard to a stimulation of emission-free mobility.”
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The German car industry, which invented the internal combustion engine, is the fourth largest in the world and is one of the biggest contributors to the German economy.

Reuters reports that a switch to sales of zero-emission cars would put thousands of jobs at risk as electric car manufacturing requires a tenth of the staff needed to build combustion-engine cars.

In June, Norwegian politicians paved the way for an electric-only future by voting to ban all petrol and diesel powered cars by 2025.
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