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I am well aware there are ways of fixing it. I'm well aware people use bed liners. I would personally never treat a truck that poorly. That's not the point at all. All I'm saying is it's a very simple and relatively small thing that they really ought to change if they want the F-150 to be the best F-150 possible..

Also 10 year old GM trucks are completely irrelevant to this conversation. Ford should want the current F-150 to be as good as possible. I'm not saying it's a huge design flaw. I'm merely pointing out that its easy to address and should be. This is Ford's bread and butter. Can't hurt them to eliminate a good marketing point GM is utilizing.

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I honestly don't think I have ever met a truck owner without a bed liner.
Well, now you have. I don't have one. My truck is used mostly for towing our fifth wheel, but I do haul firewood, miscellaneous stuff, a load of sand, and even landscape blocks. However, i'm careful with it, and keep the bed covered with a tonneau so the scratches don't really get seen.

My next truck will likely have a factory sprayed-in liner, though, just because I want to keep it looking nice.
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I am well aware there are ways of fixing it. I'm well aware people use bed liners. I would personally never treat a truck that poorly. That's not the point at all. All I'm saying is it's a very simple and relatively small thing that they really ought to change if they want the F-150 to be the best F-150 possible..

Also 10 year old GM trucks are completely irrelevant to this conversation. Ford should want the current F-150 to be as good as possible. I'm not saying it's a huge design flaw. I'm merely pointing out that its easy to address and should be. This is Ford's bread and butter. Can't hurt them to eliminate a good marketing point GM is utilizing.

Simple change?
How so, by just doubling (or so) the floor thickness to give it a bit more puncture resistance, adding additional (and substantial) weight back in, and at extensive cost to tooling, material, etc……assuming of course that there are no manufacturing implications with doing so in the first place?

Or switching to steel for the bed floor, adding even more additional weight back in, while introducing the complex and costly method of welding steel and aluminum, that pretty much no dealer or repair shop is interested in buying?

Hmmm, I say Ford is doing just fine as is, and NO, sorry, Ford should not JUMP every time GM makes a commercial. They have, after all, learned something after 4 decades of truck leadership.

Oh, and yes, rusting beds are very much part of this discussion, regardless of how old they are. That is one of the prime benefits. Forget GM for the moment….how many rusted truck beds have you seen in your life, from all automakers? Yup.

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Simple change?
How so, by just doubling (or so) the floor thickness to give it a bit more puncture resistance, adding additional (and substantial) weight back in, and at extensive cost to tooling, material, etc……assuming of course that there are no manufacturing implications with doing so in the first place?

Or switching to steel for the bed floor, adding even more additional weight back in, while introducing the complex and costly method of welding steel and aluminum, that pretty much no dealer or repair shop is interested in buying?

Hmmm, I say Ford is doing just fine as is, and NO, sorry, Ford should not JUMP every time GM makes a commercial. They have, after all, learned something after 4 decades of truck leadership.

Oh, and yes, rusting beds are very much part of this discussion, regardless of how old they are. That is one of the prime benefits. Forget GM for the moment….how many rusted truck beds have you seen in your life, from all automakers? Yup.
Adding 1/8" thickness of aluminum to the 8 foot bed will add roughly 110 pounds. Voila. No rust. Significantly lower likelihood of puncture.

We disagree here, Wings. And I'm not suggesting Ford change things after every commercial. Where do you get such brazen accusations and ideas? I'm suggesting that that is a particularly poingnant commercial to the untrained buyer (see: most buyers) that can definitely be addressed.

You're acting like my suggestion for an improvement in the product is a personal attack against you.
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Adding 1/8" thickness of aluminum to the 8 foot bed will add roughly 110 pounds. Voila. No rust. Significantly lower likelihood of puncture.

We disagree here, Wings. And I'm not suggesting Ford change things after every commercial. Where do you get such brazen accusations and ideas? I'm suggesting that that is a particularly poingnant commercial to the untrained buyer (see: most buyers) that can definitely be addressed.

You're acting like my suggestion for an improvement in the product is a personal attack against you.
personal attack against me?

I simply countered with my opinion.

No need for dramatics.

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@wingsnut Idk dude you and I agree on things like 99% of the time, this is stupid. It just seemed as though you were overtly offended by my suggestions lol.

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@wingsnut Idk dude you and I agree on things like 99% of the time, this is stupid. It just seemed as though you were overtly offended by my suggestions lol.
agreed, I just like a good debate sometimes, especially when I feel strongly about something. I almost always learn something in the process, and I would never ever mistake a good debate and disagreement as insulting or take it personal. But I get that sometimes people can misunderstand my intentions.
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agreed, I just like a good debate sometimes, especially when I feel strongly about something. I almost always learn something in the process, and I would never ever mistake a good debate and disagreement as insulting or take it personal. But I get that sometimes people can misunderstand my intentions.
No biggie. I just misinterpreted your writing style. Sometimes it's tough to properly convey intentions through text. My bad.
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But seriously the bed should be slightly thicker aluminum OR they should install a bedliner as standard equipment and make "bedliner delete" an ordering option.
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I honestly don't think I have ever met a truck owner without a bed liner.
I don't have one in my truck. But, the bed was thoroughly scratched before I bought it. But, it isn't rusted either.

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This is a really nice looking truck. And I don't even want a truck.

I hope the refreshed Ranger looks a whole lot like a smaller version of this F-150.
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