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But OK, I get it, more choice is better. But why stop at two colors. Why not 10, I wonder.
C'mon, nobody has 10 interior colors - but 3 or 4 would do the trick. Brown, tan/ivory, grey and black and voila, 9 out of 10 people will be happy...

And if that's still too much, just offer black and a light alternative.

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C'mon, nobody has 10 interior colors - but 3 or 4 would do the trick. Brown, tan/ivory, grey and black and voila, 9 out of 10 people will be happy...

And if that's still too much, just offer black and a light alternative.
I was being ironical.

Yeah, more choice is better. That said, I doubt Ford will miss out on any sales of Edge overall, given the plethora of other choices from Platinum all the way down.

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Well, count me in as being one of the few. For me, a black interior in Florida rules out the ST as an option right from the start which is sad - even if it would cost $15K less and had 700 HP...

A black exterior with - let's say an ivory interior....THAT would be striking.

That's why you make sure it has cooled seats and a remote start
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And another one....:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...suvs-compared/

Explorer only managed 4th place out of 5!!! Going RWD brought 0 driving advantages - look at the data in the article...
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If you believe that an entry level model with entry level wheels and tires and no variable rate dempening and base I4 engines can have no impact on slalom times........raise your hand.


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Yet another stripped Explorer having to compete with premium equipped minivan architectures.

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If you believe that an entry level model with entry level wheels and tires and no variable rate dempening and base I4 engines can have no impact on slalom times........raise your hand.


LOL

Yet another stripped Explorer having to compete with premium equipped minivan architectures.

Yawn
Like I keep saying...priced themselves out of the market. Competition is ruthless...

I am going to call it - the Explorer is next to go down the same way the Taurus, Fusion, Focus and Escape went...too sad.
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And another one....:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...suvs-compared/

Explorer only managed 4th place out of 5!!! Going RWD brought 0 driving advantages - look at the data in the article...
I'd just like to point out that the Explorer's new RWD architecture allowed Ford to have high-horsepower/ high-performance models like the Explorer ST and Explorer Platinum, as well as the basis for the Lincoln Aviator. You need to look at the bigger picture.

If you look at the Explorer's FWD-based competitors, they have limited engine options and limited towing capacity thanks to their low-cost FWD architectures.

Competitors using weakness as a strength. Cheap bones saves you extra bucks so you can dress your vehicle with cosmetic/superficial upgrades.

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And another one....:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...suvs-compared/

Explorer only managed 4th place out of 5!!! Going RWD brought 0 driving advantages - look at the data in the article...
I'd just like to point out that the Explorer's new RWD architecture allowed Ford to have high-horsepower/ high-performance models like the Explorer ST and Explorer Platinum, as well as the basis for the Lincoln Aviator. You need to look at the bigger picture.

If you look at the Explorer's FWD-based competitors, they have limited engine options and limited towing capacity thanks to their low-cost FWD architectures.

Competitors using weakness as a strength. Cheap bones saves you extra bucks so you can dress your vehicle with cosmetic/superficial upgrades.

...this ^^^ all of this ^^^^

Is the Explorer expensive? Yep. Could the Aviator be the hit it is on a cheaper platform? Nope. If Ford just gussied the prior platform again and then tried building a Lincoln on it, the cry would be Ford is trying to put lipstick on a pig, then some comparison about how VAG engineers a platform for Porsche/Audi and then shares it down to VW, not the other way around.

Ford did what is necessary to make Lincoln relevant, and judging by one review after another, it is working.
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And another one....:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...suvs-compared/

Explorer only managed 4th place out of 5!!! Going RWD brought 0 driving advantages - look at the data in the article...
I'd just like to point out that the Explorer's new RWD architecture allowed Ford to have high-horsepower/ high-performance models like the Explorer ST and Explorer Platinum, as well as the basis for the Lincoln Aviator. You need to look at the bigger picture.

If you look at the Explorer's FWD-based competitors, they have limited engine options and limited towing capacity thanks to their low-cost FWD architectures.

Competitors using weakness as a strength. Cheap bones saves you extra bucks so you can dress your vehicle with cosmetic/superficial upgrades.

...this ^^^ all of this ^^^^

Is the Explorer expensive? Yep. Could the Aviator be the hit it is on a cheaper platform? Nope. If Ford just gussied the prior platform again and then tried building a Lincoln on it, the cry would be Ford is trying to put lipstick on a pig, then some comparison about how VAG engineers a platform for Porsche/Audi and then shares it down to VW, not the other way around.

Ford did what is necessary to make Lincoln relevant, and judging by one review after another, it is working.
Can we remind ourselves again about which SUV is the best selling LUXURY SUV in the US? Cough cough...Lexus RX!!! Based on what?! A Highlander eh?!
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And another one....:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...suvs-compared/

Explorer only managed 4th place out of 5!!! Going RWD brought 0 driving advantages - look at the data in the article...
I'd just like to point out that the Explorer's new RWD architecture allowed Ford to have high-horsepower/ high-performance models like the Explorer ST and Explorer Platinum, as well as the basis for the Lincoln Aviator. You need to look at the bigger picture.

If you look at the Explorer's FWD-based competitors, they have limited engine options and limited towing capacity thanks to their low-cost FWD architectures.

Competitors using weakness as a strength. Cheap bones saves you extra bucks so you can dress your vehicle with cosmetic/superficial upgrades.

...this ^^^ all of this ^^^^

Is the Explorer expensive? Yep. Could the Aviator be the hit it is on a cheaper platform? Nope. If Ford just gussied the prior platform again and then tried building a Lincoln on it, the cry would be Ford is trying to put lipstick on a pig, then some comparison about how VAG engineers a platform for Porsche/Audi and then shares it down to VW, not the other way around.

Ford did what is necessary to make Lincoln relevant, and judging by one review after another, it is working.
Can we remind ourselves again about which SUV is the best selling LUXURY SUV in the US? Cough cough...Lexus RX!!! Based on what?! A Highlander eh?!
...an RX doesn’t play in Aviator’s league. RX is $40-$60k and a size class down. Be serious.
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