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MKE 2 15.38%
MKZ energi 1 7.69%
MKC/Escape 5 38.46%
MKS/Taurus 0 0%
Navigator/Expedition 0 0%
Lincstang(s) 0 0%
Transit connect 0 0%
MKX/Edge 3 23.08%
Mustang 0 0%
Other model 2 15.38%
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-- X=energi, Edge=hybrid imho Timf, which'd you buy?
MKX Energi for sure. After driving the MKZ Hybrid for the past 4 months I'm really sold on Ford's technology, but the plug-in takes it to the next level. I'd consider going back to the Edge if they follow the same Fusion/MKZ mentality and don't give Lincoln a plug-in, but my experience with the Lincoln dealer far surpassed the Ford dealer so I'd rather stick with them.
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Flex......

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An MKE would allow Lincoln to compete with Cadillac/Tesla. Using an existing model wouldn't have the same impact as an all new model.
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^ TurboS40,
do you think the way I've envisioned the MKE on the Grand C-Max's longer wlb BUT with completely different sheetmetal (and even FORM: swoopy sedan VS the C-Max's MPV) plus the size differences from current US "C" vehicles;
qualifies 'my' MKE as an AllNew model??



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MKX Energi for sure. After driving the MKZ Hybrid for the past 4 months I'm really sold on Ford's technology, but the plug-in takes it to the next level. I'd consider going back to the Edge if they follow the same Fusion/MKZ mentality and don't give Lincoln a plug-in, but my experience with the Lincoln dealer far surpassed the Ford dealer so I'd rather stick with them.
this^ is the sort of thing that (helps)/makes me think that Lincoln doesn't need an ordinary hybrid
and that Ford doesn't need Energis...
...the price differences seems IDEAL for Brand differentiation
((some) Lincoln BEV-electricS too!)

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still waiting to vote cuz hoping an admin can make the Poll multi-choice
Ausrutherford tried & tried to get the Poll to be Multi-Choice for us yesterday but
it doesn't look like that can be done
so
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I'd vote
[X] ENERGIs-ONLY for Lincoln, no more MKOrdinary Hybrids
- Z yesterday!!
- C asap
- X from Job1 Q4,2014
- S(wic)Concept NAIAS2015
- E Job1 Q2,2015
- S(wic) Job1 Q4,2015
&
...
...
- Edge-Hybrid
- T-Co-Hybrid (retail & CityCop!)
- Taurus-Hybrid
THUS
decided to keep TurboS40 company with the MKE *and* HIATUS(temp-kill) the FocusElectric!! which
-- was/is a premature MISTAKE:
-- current battery size requires a somewhat larger car
-- co$t requires a BEV drivetrian go in a Lux vehicle
imho a "high-faluting" MkCMxGrandBEV would've even OutSold the FocusElectric and STILL be OutSelling it at an easy $10k+ more

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Re: What new electroVehicle(s) should F-L produce Next?

I would like to see:
Lincoln: MKC, MKX, MKS,MKT,Navigator hybrid and MKZ,MKS energi
Ford: Escape, Explorer, Taurus hybrid
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I would also like to see Mercury come back as a Electric Car brand like Tesla.
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I would also like to see Mercury come back as a Electric Car brand like Tesla.
Bloggin, if you said that just to get a [Thank]...


...IT WORKED!


ps: that counts as an [ ] other

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^....With Mercury as an Electric Vehicle brand, Ford and Lincoln can still offer the hybrids and plug-in hybrids....anything with a gasoline engine.

But all full EVs would come from Mercury. Using 4 different platform based battery packs, with lightweight aluminum bodies.

- ????? (sub-compact/Fiesta)

- Capri (compact/Focus)

- Milan (Midsize/Fusion)

- Sable (Full Size/MKS)

- Mountaineer (Midsize SUV/Explorer)
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imho, FLincMoCo has a lot of (visible) work to do BEFORE Mercury comes off-hiatus
(meaning: imho the behind the scene UNvisible part has been on-going for a long time but little has hit-the-streets yet)

I hope by the time the nextgen MKS(wic) is onSale, the differentiation will be at GOAL-levels
AND (tho I have my doubts) that Lincoln has uniformly & distinctly REACHedHIGHER than the Ford Brand
becuz
tho I see Merc as 'off to the side' of a Ford>>Lincoln "sloan-ladder",
a mish-mash of Oval-&-Star priorities, esp with the Oval usually on top just won't be a good-enough "setting" for the Most Perfect Brand in the World.

concretely^,
I need to see some state-of-the-Art Lincoln drivetrains** to know what to propose for Merc.
For now,
imho All Electric BEV powertrains are still
-- too expensive
-- too inflexibly cumbersome
-- too toy-like ...not-ready-for-prime(ary vehicle)time
for a non-Lux Brand OR a small(er)Lux Brand.
IF plug-ins are "a stepping stone to pure BEV", when/where that step's appropriate is crucial to product planning.
(2014-YTD: "5,184 Leaf. 4,000 Tesla. 3,606 Volt. 3,296 Prius Plug-in. 2,211 Fusion Energi")
("Volt has been...a Billion dollar play that battery technology wouldn't progress far enough to be the sole power source. Tesla has proved that battery power alone is enough and better on the higher end. Hybrids of varying technologies better on the lower end.")

** ie imho, E-wd & Virtual-Awd

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