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View Poll Results: What Do You Think Ford's Future US Lineup Will Look Like?
Compact, Midsize and Large Sportbacks, SUV Coupes, CUVs, SUVs, Trucks 3 30.00%
SUV Coupes, CUVs, SUVs, Trucks 1 10.00%
One (1) Sportback, SUV Coupes, CUVs, SUVs, Trucks 3 30.00%
CUVs, Wagons, SUVs, Trucks 2 20.00%
One of Everything (Sedan, Sportback, CUV, SUV, SUV Coupe, Truck) 1 10.00%
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Remember reading an interview with a Holden Engineer discussing Zeta and developing different vehicles
off the same platform, they saved 8% over developing discreet platform that shares power train,
electrical systems and maybe suspensions...
did he mean that they really did NOT save that much at all?
no surprise if so


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...Made some inquiries regarding CD6 - was it a development of the Ford Aus based GRWD proposal? The response I got was that it looked more like the early 2000s stuff.......
Revisiting DEW, dust off and upgrade the premium chassis for the easy result?
WOW-but-Yeah,
goes completely along with the scenario of cD6 ALWAYS being as much a S650 as anything else
paging @Andrew L --- your ng.LS is nigh
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...I find the great divide on C2=+=CD6 interesting, lots of cool stuff possible.
otoh
I'm getting very suspicious about the non-truck platformitectures C2 / cD6 / E1, esp the mysterious E1
Like if they could really be basically the same thing[s] = small-mid / mid-Lg / with battery surfboard shoved underneath?


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It gets me that Ford went to all that effort to revive EUCD and deliver CD4 but kept a lot
of the in built limitations - I mean doing more with a RWD platform like Falcon/Territory
would have yielded Ford their very own multi function RWD AWD architecture years ago...
well, guess I choose to look at it as:
- a learning situation, afaik the 1st time FMC tried a w-i-d-e platformitecture = 10 vehicles originally
- waaaaaaaay better than GM spending 10Billion-a-$hot for multiple[3?,4?] platforms
...that still doN'T sell
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I wonder if there is less dollars invested in next gen ICE platforms, because the future will be new EV platforms. And Ford will need a sub-compact, compact, midsize, large and truck EV platform in the next couple years.

I say this because Honda has already announced that they will offer a 150+mile EV at $18k sharing tech with their Chinese partner, and expecting over 100k units to be sold globally. Ford hopefully is doing the same with the Zyote? company. VW has already made the same statement that their upcoming ID models will match the price of ICE models.

Which indicates it's now possible to have a 200+ mile compact or midsize EV for $25k or $30k, and put side by side, based on how comfortable the consumer is with their home or public charging infrastructure, the EV will win for many reasons.

With that being the most logical case, lower expenditures on next gen ICE platforms make sense, and a reduction of those platforms is imperative, since those segment platforms will be replaced by EV platforms.
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too big for a Focus^


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While the perfect car shape sounds like a good idea, here's the thing: What would you classify it as? What would cars.com, Consumer Reports and US News call it? It's a perfect 33% of all three types of cars, meaning it's as much a sedan as it is a crossover as it is an SUV.


My guess is that it would still be classified as "Sedan" by the EPA and them due to the shape, even though it has the height of a crossover and versatility of an SUV.
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somewhere I once posted an animated VW .gif something like this; swiped I think from Biker16 @ B0N...
...'course I can't find it anywhere

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