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View Poll Results: What Do You Think Ford's Future US Lineup Will Look Like?
Compact, Midsize and Large Sportbacks, SUV Coupes, CUVs, SUVs, Trucks 3 30.00%
SUV Coupes, CUVs, SUVs, Trucks 1 10.00%
One (1) Sportback, SUV Coupes, CUVs, SUVs, Trucks 3 30.00%
CUVs, Wagons, SUVs, Trucks 2 20.00%
One of Everything (Sedan, Sportback, CUV, SUV, SUV Coupe, Truck) 1 10.00%
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All About That Whitespace

There are two concepts that Audi has made that I think would be very good candidates for a Ford whitespace competitor.

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Audi TT Sportback:

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The TT Sportback measures 4.47 meters (176 inches) long, 1.89 meters (74.4 inches) wide and 1.38 meters (54.3 inches) tall. This new body rides atop a 2.63-meter (92.9-inch) wheelbase. These dimensions make the TT Sportback 11.4 inches longer, 2.4 inches wider and 1.2 inches shorter in height than the TT Coupe. It also has a 4.7-inch longer wheelbase than the TT Coupe to make more room for the rear seats.
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Moving over to the sides, you’ll notice a lot of the same cues that you saw on the e-tron Quattro Concept, but more refined. The Sportback Concept has beefy front fenders and rear haunches. Where things differ here, however, is that the sharp body lines of the rear quarters and fenders are now separated with a crease in the body just below them for a unique look. Down below, the Sportback gets the same styling we say on the Quattro, but the side skirts are toned down a bit while the area just above gets a long LED strip that helps to define the side profile. Of particular note here is the fact that the roof slopes down rather violently beyond the front doors, leaving little room for rear quarter glass. This model is also void of any door handles but does have the side view cameras mounted to the beltline.
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Around back, the first thought that comes to mind here is “bubble butt.” It’s a rash generalization as there’s really not anything that bubbly going on back here, but the sloop of the rear hatch and the rounded appearance above the beltline area gives the concept an interesting look, to say the least. Honestly, it reminds me a lot of the rear of the Porsche Panamera, but that’s no surprise, really. After all, we’re talking about Audi here, and no brand under the VAG umbrella has had a unique idea in quite some time. The taillights on this concept feature a matrix layout similar to that of the Quattro Concept but have been fashioned so that together they look like a two-sided arrow. The rear fascia is quite obsolete as far as style goes, but down below there is a bit of cladding to add some character.

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^Links:
https://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2014...tback_concept/
https://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2017...tback_concept/

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...Cuv...hybrid (or low cost plug-in)...rebody-ing it for ultimate aerodynamics...(maybe lower ride-height too -or- with active (speed sensitive) height lowering)
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you gonna tie this into Fomoco, Nihar?
or should we be looking for a diff forum-section as a permanent home for this thread?

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@2b2 Ford cars

I'm speculating the shape. When we hear more about Ford's plan we'll add more here as well.

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...attaching "car-ish" examples

edit/AND...
digging up that camo^pic leads me to wonder IF
that THIRD new platformitecture —the SECRET one we know nothing about— ..."e1",
could [not will] be used for
can't get more white-spaced!! — –O lo

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...KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !
I wonder if there would be a place for the Euro Ford S-Sax in North America,
it's an MPV but not so awful as some designs...

And this is the Ford Galaxy stable mate, much more of a mini van


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It visually makes sense for Ford to build something like either of these concepts.


Mid/Fullsize:



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Compact/Subcompact:



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They fit comfortably between the sedan and SUV.

Here's another example from Audi:



I've also linked full spec sheets for the Buick Regal and Audi A5 sportbacks vs. Mercedes GLC and BMW X6 crossover coupes.

https://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/x6/specs
https://www.caranddriver.com/mercede...lc-coupe/specs

https://www.caranddriver.com/audi/a5-sportback/specs
https://www.caranddriver.com/buick/r...portback/specs
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@jpd80 I would like to see the Galaxy MPV come to the US. Though they might wait for its redesign.

The future of the sedan:




Ford, make a competitor to this (EXACTLY, with the practical SUV trunk).

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At our track recently, I saw the shape of what I was pretty sure was a Mach One BEV running around. If so, I take back my previous comment that it was not unique. This was very unique. I liked what I saw.
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Wings, if you have the time / inclination...

Which of the already-numerous pix in this thread is closest in overall SHAPE to what you saw??
...maybe 'squint'? ;
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