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CD7(4+3) VS D6/CD6: best guess> INSIDE SCOOP?

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this section may not get much more use

ok, the fridgeline thread was my camel's straw
&
I wanna list Every Possible idea for what either platform might be good for
( assuming they're Not related ... for now )
here's a start

_______CD'7'_______|_______D6/CD6_______
ChinaTaurus("Florb")_________????
_____________________Aviator(MK-replacement)
_____________________Conti
____________________.'midsize' 'sedan'
___something (that looks) like a small pickup



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Re: CD7(4+3) VS D6/CD6: best guesses

crosspollinating the RUMOR/'musical factories' thread [oldQUOTE=2b2;456761...]
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...(still) looking at comments elsewhere,
imhO
the 2 BIG questions (which I don't see getting addressed) are
- A.M.P
- D6/CD6
ie
where will they be built?
will there be just one Norte America factory for each?
could they possibly be built together in one plant (so there could 1&half of each)?
and from reading else-elsewhere

my working hypothesis is the A.M.P will top-out with a Fusion-size replacement
&
the D6/CD6 will bottom-out with at least an MKZ-replacement if not all the way down (in size) to the S550 ...but... in addition to the expect Aviator, plus big and little 'brothers';
there could also be the Ranger & Bronco


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Re: CD7(4+3) VS D6/CD6: best guesses

CD7 is going to be good for cheap volume with unseen corners cut.
CD6 is going to be a better effort at being competitive on the world stage.

The above is my guess just based on the idea that CD6 will prop up the Continental while CD7 is for the more mundane volume market China Taurus. Of course I could be completely wrong, not that I'd admit it.
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Re: CD7(4+3) VS D6/CD6: best guesses

Pretty sure CD6 is just a beefier CD4 for Explorer and Aviator. Like D3 vs D4.

The MKZ, MKC, and MKX will likely remain tied to Ford development well into the next decade, but we will see two new vehicles, only one of which is using CD6 (Aviator). I think this transition to a Lincoln platform will be far less dramatic than a magic all-new platform and probably will involve repurposing a Ford platform with more Lincoln exclusive tech and engineering (advanced AWD, Lincoln specific suspension components, unique engines). This is going to be a very organic and cost effective transition, it takes FAR more than 5-Billion over 5 years to start anything from scratch let alone rebuild an entire luxury brand with all-new models, dealerships, and markets.

Anyway, that's just my extrapolation based on how Ford and Lincoln develop products based on longterm engineering platforms and Lincoln's budget I've also seen how this rumor spread and twisted from its original source which said this was a platform specific to Explorer and Aviator.

Ford just streamlined it's global C/D platforms and they are still not done launching new products based on CD4. So CD6 must be a derivative needed for heavier SUVs and one of the reasons Explorer is many years behind other C/D cars at Ford.
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Re: CD7(4+3) VS D6/CD6: best guesses

^ I'm much more in agreement with SP's view, Borg...
...could just be I LIKE it better
& hope my "CD7" being another way of saying CD4+3 didn't confuse anyone
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CD7 is going to be good for cheap volume with unseen corners cut.
CD6 is going to be a better effort at being competitive on the world stage.

The above is my guess just based on the idea that CD6 will prop up the Continental while CD7 is for the more mundane volume market China Taurus. Of course I could be completely wrong, not that I'd admit it.
now I'm wondering if having 2 versions of this new platform, ie D6 and CD6, are real and not just mis-statements...
...hoping
D6 = TaurusReplacement** & larger (includes Aviators)
CD6 = MKZ and smaller (includes MKXs)
tho
guess it'd make more sense for
D6 = Rwd/r-Awd
CD6 = Fwd/f-Awd



** Not China Taurus = "CD7" (florb)
also
thinking of Our replacement as being a bit like a CLS with different graphics - will be very interesting if/when un-identifiable testcars show up

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Re: CD7(4+3) VS D6/CD6: best guesses

I doubt Lincoln will have its own platform. Ford (Ford Motor Company), is reducing the number of platforms. In fact, the next midsize cars will be based on a streched new C cars (Focus) platform. So, the next Focus, Escape-Kuga-MKC, C-Max-Grand C-Max, Fusion-Mondeo-MKZ,Edge-MKX, S-Max-Galaxy and Explorer-Aviator will share, eventually, the same basic platform with heavy modifications and adaptations to each vehicle. Maybe the smaller cars (Fiesta, B-Max, Ka-Figo) will keep its own platform for a while... but not much. Ford is going to the "one-flexible-platform-for all" VW model.

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^ I'm much more in agreement with SP's view, Borg...
...could just be I LIKE it better
You just like it better. You passionately want Ford to elevate Lincoln to the level of a real luxury brand, but it probably won't. But Ford will make big profits off Lincoln.
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You just like it better. You passionately want Ford to elevate Lincoln to the level of a real luxury brand, but it probably won't. But Ford will make big profits off Lincoln.
Ford could have justified making Lincoln a true luxury brand 25 years ago. That would have been the appropriate time to take action. If things at Ford and GM back then were different, Lexus probably would be in the same shape as Acura and Infiniti are today, and the Germans would be fighting the Detroit brands for luxury market share in certain parts of the world.

The luxury field is just so saturated right now. It's hard to justify such a gigantic investment when the demand is little. The world does not really need another luxury car brand. I suppose Lincoln will always be on standby just in case something happens to the established marques.
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Re: CD7(4+3) VS D6/CD6: best guesses

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...If things at Ford and GM back then were different, Lexus probably would be in the same shape as Acura and Infiniti are today...

I hafta just SAVOUR that for a moment




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...The luxury field is just so saturated right now. It's hard to justify such a gigantic investment when the demand is little. The world does not really need another luxury car brand. I suppose Lincoln will always be on standby just in case something happens to the established marques.
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Never EVER Give UP!


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...You passionately want Ford to elevate Lincoln to the level of a real luxury brand...
like the Over $200k crowd??
actually
- I've ranted a number times about keeping Lincoln LESS than 6-digits
- really just want Lincoln to get the ****-outta Mercury's way


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I doubt Lincoln will have its own platform...

...Maybe the smaller cars (Fiesta, B-Max, Ka-Figo) will keep its own platform for a while... but not much. Ford is going to the "one-flexible-platform-for all" VW model.
just-imhO, D6/CD6 will replace larger & lux-er vehicles: Z-Conti(/"T" if it survives)-Explorer/Aviator
and A.M.P will go down from SOME midsizers to U.S B-class
(leaving smaller/emerging-market-B's
& A-class(?) on whatever's cheapest)
tho
D6/CD6 and A.M.P might end up as close 'cousins'


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from playing around in the blogs and Mission...

...possible, modular,
Variants of D6/CD6
known-assumed
D6awd
D6fwd
D6rwd ...could there also be
a separate

D6electro
& if there's any relation between D6 and T6 trucks?
D6t

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Re: CD7(4+3) VS D6/CD6: best guesses

a rather 'odd' article and resultant GMI thread about making Corvette a Brand/suite of vehicles,
OR is it about making Cadillacs based on a Vette/VetteBrand??

either way, might offer some ideas for sport-oriented D6CD6 variants...
...liberally swiping:

"BOXSTER"
"CAYMAN" would be the "sub" RWD 2+2 sedan
"911" 2+2 Coupe styling
"Macan"

"Panamera"/"6-Series" 4 Door Grand Coupe
"Cayenne"/"X5" (5-Pass) and "X7" (7-Pass)

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