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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-19-2018, 08:40 PM Thread Starter
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https://www.carscoops.com/2018/06/fo...oint-projects/


I wonder if they're going to bring said new types of vehicles with the help of Volkswagen?

I hope this also means if Ford tries out the Dual-Clutch transmission again, they will be supervised by Audi.
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ummmmm.... Ford will be the "VW´s truck division in NA" ?



VW is a gigantic automotive "black hole" that absorb many brands and car companies. Today, is the biggest automotive empire with the brands VW, Audi, Porsche, Bentley, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Seat, Skoda and many others in China under the local partnership rules. The only weakness of VW is North America, where it is weak in the area of ​​trucks and SUVs, as well as in the market of non-premium passenger vehicles. Absorb Ford is the perfect form to fix that weak. Integrating Ford into the platforms for sedans destined for China and Europe will be easy. For North America, they would maintain the current platforms and models of trucks and SUVs of Ford.
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I'll be surprised if the relationship goes much beyond a few commercial vehicles. And even that might not last. Ford doesn't seem to play well with others.
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Maybe VW wants a deisel engine that passes inspection.


Ford did have a good relationship with Mazda for a long time, and a relatively successful transmission agreement with GM.
Any program that would result in shared expenses is a bonus.

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I think Ford actually want's VW's EV technology. Ford has to partner with another company in China to offer EVs there, and with how far behind Ford is in NA, I expect Ford to be trying to get EV to share their tech as well.

Remember, Ford has NO EV planned for NA until sometime in 2021. That's over 3 years from now. Every automaker in the world will have launched several EVs to meet demand by then.

I see a swap happening, Ford offers truck tech and manufacturing/rebranding and VW offers EV tech/manufacturing/rebranding.
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I think Ford actually want's VW's EV technology. Ford has to partner with another company in China to offer EVs there, and with how far behind Ford is in NA, I expect Ford to be trying to get EV to share their tech as well.

Remember, Ford has NO EV planned for NA until sometime in 2021. That's over 3 years from now. Every automaker in the world will have launched several EVs to meet demand by then.

I see a swap happening, Ford offers truck tech and manufacturing/rebranding and VW offers EV tech/manufacturing/rebranding.



2021 is 2 years from now... is not far


You speak as if every automaker will have dozens off pure EVs by then... but the reality is the EVs list by 2021 will be (some of them not offered in NA):
1- Mercedes-Benz: EQC
2- BMW: i3, i8 and the new electric midsize sedan
3- Porsche: Taycan
4- Lexus: next CT (possible)
5- Nissan: Leaf
6- GM: Volt and Bolt
7- Kia: Kona
8- Hyundai: Ionic
9- VW: ID Hatch
10- Renault : Zoe
11- Citroen: C Zero
12- Volvo: XC40 electric version (maybe)
13- Ford: Mach1
14- Toyota: nothing (at least until now)
15- Mazda: nada
16- FCA: nothing (maybe for 2022)
17-Audi: E-Tron Q4
18- Jaguar: I-Pace




Ford will be well positioned by 2021 with one EV.... because EVs are not profitable....yet

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So how many of those brands listed above have a BEV today, let alone the electrification experience Ford has had in the last few decades, going back to a BEV Ranger. But alas, some feel that unless it is a one off platform that includes a large batter for more range……none of that counts and nothing has been learned. LOL
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When I heard about the VW and Ford alliance, the first thing that came to mind was the old VW Sharan and the Ford Galaxy MPV.


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2021 is 2 years from now... is not far


You speak as if every automaker will have dozens off pure EVs by then... but the reality is the EVs list by 2021 will be (some of them not offered in NA):
1- Mercedes-Benz: EQC
2- BMW: i3, i8 and the new electric midsize sedan
3- Porsche: Taycan
4- Lexus: next CT (possible)
5- Nissan: Leaf
6- GM: Volt and Bolt
7- Kia: Kona
8- Hyundai: Ionic
9- VW: ID Hatch
10- Renault : Zoe
11- Citroen: C Zero
12- Volvo: XC40 electric version (maybe)
13- Ford: Mach1
14- Toyota: nothing (at least until now)
15- Mazda: nada
16- FCA: nothing (maybe for 2022)
17-Audi: E-Tron Q4
18- Jaguar: I-Pace

Ford will be well positioned by 2021 with one EV.... because EVs are not profitable....yet
I think your list is missing the Tesla Model S, X and 3 with the Y that should launch by 2021.

2018, 2019, 2020, most likely the end of 2021. It will be at least 36 months before we see production of a Ford EV.
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So nice to read that a company you favor is teaming up with a cheating , lying scumbag company. WTF is wrong with this picture?

Car companies have always worked with their competition, so why make this public?

Does the public not give a **** anymore?
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