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post #101 of 105 (permalink) Old 11-15-2015, 04:44 PM
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We should get back to Escape, but let me participate in the OT EcoSport conversation for a bit.

The Fiesta (AFAIK) Does not have a new platform ready, I suspect we may see a shrunk version of the new Focus platform show up.
I hope that doesn't mean shared parts with the Focus.
Based on my experience, at least here, the Focus is priced competitively, but its parts aren't.

The current Fiesta (with a manual transmission) is cheap to run, almost the same as its Asian competitors. Just avoid the Powershift models, major headache.

Has Ford officially announced when the 2017 Escape will officially be launched?
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Fiesta sells wel in Europe, so I expect the new model to be more evolutionary.
yes and no -- it may be evolutionary until they go all new on the platform and decide to change things. But Ford has been pushing the 2 top-hat generations per platform schedule, and we currently have a post-MCE 1st top hat on the current platform. So I am also expecting the same proportions to remain.

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Size is a big deal there also, which means it can't really get much bigger, and still meet the sub-compact needs in it's largest markets. Light weighting will be the big deal here. So expect the new/revised/repurposed platform it uses to be lighter weight, with more use of aluminum.

Looking at the EcoSport, I expect it to remain much as it is, but with the Escape growing a bit in size, the current platform could be used for a more NA specific (EcoSport like) vehicle below the new larger, more grown up Escape.

Which could look something like this:

- New Fiesta keeps current platform with updates/light weighting

- EcoSport(needs new name for NA) for NA market uses smaller version of current Escape/Focus platform with modifications

- New Escape gets new larger/lighter platform shared with New Focus and new C-Segment Lincoln.
Fiesta is currently on its own platform, and EcoSport and B-Max are is tall-bodied Fiestas. My point is not that ecoSport will change architecture, but that Ford will pursue different proportions when EcoSport goes NG in a few years, going for a lower, hatchback-like look, rather than the current very-tall profile.

Focus' C1/C2 platform is directly used under the Escape and that will not change.

The C1/C2 also is the core of EUCD/CD4 (Fusion, Mondeo, Edge, MKX, Galaxy, S-Max).

I expected the NG C Platform debuting under the next Focus to serve the same role for all FWD/AWD Fords, and spawn the NG CD platform, but the existence of CD6 mixes things up a little bit.

With CD6 on the horizon, we may see CD6 exist separate from the NG C-platform. If this is the case, maybe Ford will make the C platform the base of the NG B platform as well: make it smaller, lighter, and cheaper, and off you go. The relation from Fiesta -> EcoSport and Focus -> Escape will 95% remain unchanged, regardless.

Despite all this speculation, I am 95% certain that the NG Fiesta will be just a new top-hat on a refresh of the current platform.
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Looking at the EcoSport, I expect it to remain much as it is, but with the Escape growing a bit in size, the current platform could be used for a more NA specific (EcoSport like) vehicle below the new larger, more grown up Escape.

Which could look something like this:

- New Fiesta keeps current platform with updates/light weighting

- EcoSport(needs new name for NA) for NA market uses smaller version of current Escape/Focus platform with modifications
I doubt this would happen, basing the EcoSport on the Fiesta not only makes it affordable, but affordable to run which is the whole point of having a B-segment Crossover.
I doubt the next Escape will grow that much bigger because it would make the 5-seater Edge seem pointless.

What they could do is make a longer EcoSport for the rest of the world, and a short sub-4-meter version for India.
I mentioned this before, but the sub-4 meter lower tax bracket only applies to India and nowhere else.

This explains why majority of its competitors in Asia (not designed for India) are larger.

Ford is already making regional bodystyles of models they sell in different markets.
Some examples:
Ford Figo Aspire (sub-4-meter sedan), a version with a longer trunk is sold elsewhere.
Ford Edge, china gets a version with a longer wagon body and 3rd row seats, rest of the world gets the shorter 2 row version.

The EcoSport can go this route, same basic vehicle, different rear ends (one sub-4 meter version for India, a longer one for the rest of the world).
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since it's not "spied" anymore
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