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"Fitting" as an aftermarket conversion is one thing. Fitting from the factory and passing the necessary crash-testing is something completely different.
Is Ford's 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 longer than a 2.3 EcoBoost I-4?

PS: The Ranger T6 was engineered to accommodate a long 3.2-liter inline-5 Duratorq.

How the long inline-5 is positioned in the chassis, the front bar is the bumper bar (RoTW Ranger).

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How does Ford's EcoBoost V6 engines compare to the 2.3 EcoBoost in terms of length? I'm guessing it isn't longer.

PS: The Ranger T6's engine bay was engineered to accommodate a long 3.2-liter inline-5 Duratorq.

How the long inline-5 is positioned in the chassis, the front bar is the bumper bar (RoTW Ranger).
I won't pretend to know how the lengths compare, but as I said, I'm not sure physical size is the only issue. The current model was designed to accommodate the inline five, yes, but it didn't need to meet US crash standards in such a configuration. That Ford has chosen to skip a Raptor in North America until the next generation arrives tells me a V6 isn't plug-n-play. (A hotter 2.3 would have been acceptable, IMO.)

I do recall that when asked why there would be no engine upgrades for the Raptor in Australia, Ford said that it's a diesel market, and they didn't think the 3.0L V6 turbodiesel would fit even if they wanted to offer it. Again, I have no idea how the 3.0L compares to something like the 2.7T dimensionally, but it's an indicator that they're working with constraints.

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I won't pretend to know how the lengths compare, but as I said, I'm not sure physical size is the only issue. The current model was designed to accommodate the inline five, yes, but it didn't need to meet US crash standards in such a configuration. That Ford has chosen to skip a Raptor in North America until the next generation arrives tells me a V6 isn't plug-n-play. (A hotter 2.3 would have been acceptable, IMO.)

I do recall that when asked why there would be no engine upgrades for the Raptor in Australia, Ford said that it's a diesel market, and they didn't think the 3.0L V6 turbodiesel would fit even if they wanted to offer it. Again, I have no idea how the 3.0L compares to something like the 2.7T dimensionally, but it's an indicator that they're working with constraints.
Making the current US Ranger inline-4-only might be a marketing thing, like how the Fusion was initially offered with I-4s only.

Trevor Worthington said majority of the 200 markets for the RoTW Ranger are 99% diesel markets.
He was specific though when he mentioned that the diesel 3.0 V6 won't fit.

If you look at the photos, the 3.0 diesel V6 plus its components is physically larger than the 2.7 EcoBoost V6.

Aside from marketing, it looks like another factor why there is no Ranger Raptor in North America, it requires Raptor-specific modifications to fit the long travel all-coil spring suspension. Ford probably wants local US Ranger production started with one chassis type first.

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Trevor Worthington said majority of the 200 markets for the RoTW Ranger are 99% diesel markets.
He was specific though when he mentioned that the diesel 3.0 V6 won't fit.
What market and what gas engine is offered in the Ranger outside of North America? It must have been sold somewhere with a gas engine for Worthington to come of up with 1% choosing gas engine.
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What market and what gas engine is offered in the Ranger outside of North America? It must have been sold somewhere with a gas engine for Worthington to come of up with 1% choosing gas engine.
Lol
Let's see.... Ford offers a 2.5-liter Duratec option in the Middle East and in Brazil on some trim levels. Not sure what other markets outside North America has a gas engine option.

*The 2.5 Duratec in Brazil is a flex fuel version that can accept gasoline and ethanol.

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What market and what gas engine is offered in the Ranger outside of North America? It must have been sold somewhere with a gas engine for Worthington to come of up with 1% choosing gas engine.
Lol Not sure of all of them, but in the Middle East, Ford offers a 2.5-liter Duratec option alongside the diesels on the lower to mid trims.
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Lol Not sure of all of them, but in the Middle East, Ford offers a 2.5-liter Duratec option alongside the diesels on the lower to mid trims.
The 2.5 TiVCT was sold in Australia up until 2015, it was also sold in Mexico until recently.
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What market and what gas engine is offered in the Ranger outside of North America? It must have been sold somewhere with a gas engine for Worthington to come of up with 1% choosing gas engine.
I'm curious what Europe (outside of major cities) thinks about the future of deisel.
Will desiel be regulated out of existense, or is it here for the long run?

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From my circle and forums I read (mainly UK & German based) diesel is a bad word for new car buyers. That said diesel will always have its fans, plus the manufacturers especially Ford are pushing diesel engine vehicles down some markets throats. Which I think is hurting sales and customer perception.

Diesel has been kept alive IMO by the corporate fleet business. The kick backs and other favors from the Manufacturers made for gravy train diesel sales. But new regs etc are making diesel not so attractive, even with the lowering of the cost of diesel vehicles to be more in line with petrol vehicles diesel sales are disappearing.

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