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Re: Mission2020: The RETURN of MERCURY!

a post elsewhere brought up the idea of taking an existing smallish Cuv (Escape?)
sticking in an available hybrid (or low cost plug-in) drivetrain (C-Max?)
(( tho I'd prefer Virtual-Awd of course ))
and
rebody-ing it for ultimate aerodynamics (regardless of How it'd look)...(maybe lower ride-height too -or- with active (speed sensitive) height lowering)


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just without the weirdness
The Infiniti Q30 is dead! Long live the Infiniti QX30!
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The QX30 arrives in mid-2016...

...Because of our crossover-obsessed culture, it's easier for automakers to brand new offerings as CUVs rather than hatchbacks. Take one five-door, front-wheel-drive car, add a teensy bit of ground clearance and all-wheel drive, and boom, success! So because the Q30 and ever-so-slightly higher-riding QX30 are so darn similar, Infiniti made the decision to just sell them both under the QX30 name. This might seem stupid to most, but to Infiniti – and the crossover-buying masses – this is actually a pretty logical move.

...On the base end there's the standard QX30, then there's the lower-riding QX30S, and finally, the higher-than-standard-riding QX30 AWD. They all come with a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine and a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission...
...If you're not confused enough yet, feel free to read more in the press release below.


Press Release_____________
...While sharing basic exterior and interior designs, the QX30 line will be offered in three unique versions, each with its own front and rear fascia, wheel design and interior themes:

QX30: The crossover's highly sculpted exterior, unique stance and asymmetric cabin design exemplify Infiniti's design-led approach to product development. This version is sold in Europe and other regions outside of the Americas under the Q30 name. In the Americas, this model will be front-wheel drive.

QX30S: With a lower stance, aggressive front and rear fascia, cross-drilled front brake rotors, 19-inch wheels and performance tires, the QX30S is the sports version of Infiniti's new premium compact line. It was shown at this year's Los Angeles Auto Show and is sold in other markets as the Q30S.

QX30 AWD: With an intelligent all-wheel drive system, slightly higher ride height and off-road inspired front and rear valence panels, the vehicle is able to take on urban, suburban and winding rural roads in all driving conditions. The QX30 AWD debuted at the Los Angeles Auto Show as the QX30...
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not sure if I lost any charts between puter change & forum software change but just for reference re: the new competition
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...thinking of an entry-pkg Hybrid for the Cortina, Capri, & MiniSport
with minimal batteries 1.4 -to- 3.37kWh or maybe even just capacitors,
perhaps smaller electric motors (~75hp?)(on UN-petrol-drive wheels for Awd),
& using a specially tuned 1.5EB plus a simplified MODE selector (vs plug-in)
atkinson = ~90hp / non-turbo = ~135hp / lo-pressure turbo = ~185hp / hi-turbo = ~240hp
ref: earlier post with plug-in chart
where the 2 (TWO) C-size Plug-In drivetrains (higher priced!) have theoretical maxes of 258hp & 353hp
plus close to the ~80mile e-range of the pure-BEV FocusElectric
Here’s The 2017 Hyundai IONIQ to Take On The Prius
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By Aaron Cole on January 7, 2016


...Ioniq... is powered by Hyundai’s all-new 1.6-liter Atkinson-style cycle engine and a lithium-ion polymer battery that produce 103 horsepower and 42 horsepower respectively. Hyundai didn’t specify what the total combined output of the Ioniq could be, so we’ll have to wait on that because apparently the combined horsepower number maths harder than just adding the two together...

...The Ioniq’s power is shifted through a six-speed dual-clutch transmission because CVTs are just plain silly. Hyundai said the transmission has been optimized for the hybrid system, and transmits more than 95 percent of the power to the wheels.

In addition to powertrain improvements, the automaker detailed weight savings in the car. Hyundai said an aluminum hood and tailgate helped to cut roughly 25 pounds from the overall weight of the car, in addition to extensive use of high-strength lightweight steel...

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imho
"modern" plug-ins will have EQUAL HP from electricity & petrol!

tho
a Question could be posed in WHICH MODE they're Equal?
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Re: Lincoln Continental @ NAIAS
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Good article. Woodhouse raised a question that was festering in my mind for a while. Why did it take the prospect of growth in the Chinese marketplace for Ford/Lincoln to finally pay attention to the passenger seats. It's not as if people just started buying 4-door sedans yesterday. If innovation is more than just a PR phrase, someone should have thought of truly comfortable/heated/adjustable back seats long ago if only to gain an advantage over competitors. This is 2016.

Of course, I expect the apologists to say that there was no demand in the U.S. and they would be correct. However, the example of Apple is there for all to see. They became the highest capitalized company by regularly giving consumers innovative convenience products that they didn't demand, thereby creating the new normal.

Back in the day, we didn't demand independent rear suspensions but the imports gave it to us while the big three said that there was no demand. The big three gave up huge shares of the market because the innovation came from the outside. There is no reason Elon Musk should be in the automobile manufacturing business except ...

Just a thought.
& Re: What's Next for Lincoln?
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I wonder if Ford could come up with something Mini like as a secondary brand for Lincoln dealers? I'm not sure how exactly they do it as BMW had the advantage of the Mini's heritage to build on, turning it into a quirky, yet premium compact brand. Ford would have to come up with a unique play on the compact segment, yet retain volume appeal in order to do so without being in direct competition with similar Ford product.

Probably one of those ideas that sound great in conversation but are highly unlikely to be great in reality. And while I would have no issue with the brand taking the Mercury name, I would not want to see a true, full brand in the way it was previously. It would have to a focused, limited scope brand, hard to do in reality.
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the chop(s) I haven't done yet based on the Q30/CX30 or coming/spyed Mazda SwoopyUtilityThingie
showing how an adjustable height suspension could further-blur the Cuv/sedan distinction
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all (variously) electrified drivetrains,
all Virtual-Awd standard,
simplified Lux accoutrements/amenities,
and dual-back trunks/hatches

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added Mazda link &
saw a post at CSS that suggested a Subaru-fighter theme = Mercaroooo?
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first half: added trunk-let & *rationalized* styling
(next if I get to it, putting a more vertical Cuv-hatch back on)



edit
wondering about using the "Mariner" Name for all 3 of my proposed Cuvs:
Mariner7 =
Mercified S-Max-like
Mariner5 = Mercurific not-quite-an-Escape (as MKC goes Macanish)
Mariner3 = smallest = hardest to quantify so far...
...yes,
they're Supposed to sound like spacecraft!
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Re: Mission2020: The RETURN of MERCURY!

accidentally came across a '63/64 Mercury Concept I only had a single B&W pic of before,
from a site I dunno if official or not:
FordImages.com





only had the side shot before and
while the front & rear are interesting
had higher hopes for them being as 'never-produced' as the profile
Then
when I got the full gallery loaded (link at top)
discovered another concept I'd never seen before



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Nice pics! The tail lamps of the 1964 Montego concept car remind me of the tail lamps on my mom's 1965 Mercury Parklane. In 1970 the car was in such great condition, my mom's dad bought it from my parents. My 95 year-young grandfather still loves Mercury's to this day, as his 2011 Mercury Grand Marquis will attest.
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Nice pics! The tail lamps of the 1964 Montego concept car remind me of the tail lamps on my mom's 1965 Mercury Parklane. In 1970 the car was in such great condition, my mom's dad bought it from my parents. My 95 year-young grandfather still loves Mercury's to this day, as his 2011 Mercury Grand Marquis will attest.
Great pics 2b2 thanks for sharing.

hbmf Your grandfather is a good man with great taste in cars. nothing quite like a Mercury I still smile every time I get behind the wheel of mine.
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...a simplified MODE selector (vs plug-in)
atkinson = ~90hp / non-turbo = ~135hp / lo-pressure turbo = ~185hp / hi-turbo = ~240hp...
ProCharger i-1 is the World’s First Programmable Supercharger w/ Video
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...long considered the “Holy Grail” of supercharging...
...the new system means is that drivers can program the boost level they want to reach, while also programming the boost “curve” itself to help tremendously in traction limited situations...
...Drivers can switch between three factory-supplied performance modes as well as a custom mode...

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was daydreaming about my ideal car and somehow started wondering what a C-Max would look like if it was re-skinned with the Macan?
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...rebody-ing it for ultimate aerodynamics...
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...SwoopyUtilityThingie...
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*rationalized* styling...
very rough&quick
just matched lower body at the intersection of B-pillar and beltline,
with half-a-thought given to the axle-points,
and fudged-on a greenhouse separately



if anyone isn't sure, the middle one is the re-skin
& fwiw
_ovl___wlb____w____ht________
184.3 - 110.5 - 76.7 - 63.9 - Porsche Macan
173.6 - 104.3 - 72.0 - 63.9 - C-Max
177.9 - 109.8 - 71.9 - 66.3 - Grand C-Max (not used nor harmed in this chop)

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