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As you all know, Mercury was designed to be a bridge between Ford and Lincoln. The Ford brand instead starting overlapping Lincoln and there was no gap. My 2006 Milan has more style than the 2006 Fusion. That is why I bought it. However, I do not think Ford could continue to produce clones of each other. Fusion, Milan, Zephyr (MKZ) or Escape, Mariner, Mazda Tribute. Instead, they should have made Mercury a niche brand.
How about a 2 door coupe with convertible option or take Flex out of Ford and put into Mercury, with some re-designs, etc, etc. I am sure this has all been discussed before, but this is my opinion.
Sales would be far too low to justify investment in them, especially the vehicles you mentioned, just to support a brand name.

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I'm thinking that this is the START of a lineup, not the full proposal
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As you all know, Mercury was designed to be a bridge between Ford and Lincoln. The Ford brand instead starting overlapping Lincoln and there was no gap. My 2006 Milan has more style than the 2006 Fusion. That is why I bought it. However, I do not think Ford could continue to produce clones of each other. Fusion, Milan, Zephyr (MKZ) or Escape, Mariner, Mazda Tribute. Instead, they should have made Mercury a niche brand.
How about a 2 door coupe with convertible option or take Flex out of Ford and put into Mercury, with some re-designs, etc, etc. I am sure this has all been discussed before, but this is my opinion.
Welcome to the Mission, RichardK
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Sales would be far too low to justify investment in them, especially the vehicles you mentioned, just to support a brand name.
You are probably right. Also, Mulally wanted a limited number of platforms with more sharing. There would have been no room for unique specialty vehicles.
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I'm thinking that this is the START of a lineup, not the full proposal

Welcome to the Mission, RichardK
ideas are very appreciated - hope you peruse the rest of it
Thanks for the support. I will just keep plugging for Mercury.

There is a guy down the street from me who owns 3 Milans. I think he already owned one and then bought 2 more when Mercury was discontinued.
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This might make @2b2 cry but I was curious if the Mercury vehicles website was still up last time I looked it showed similar Ford or Lincoln products you could buy in place of the lineup and when I looked yesterday it got updated to something I wasn't quite expecting!

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oh, I APPROVE

ty @Andrew L ...can't wait to see the next UPdate see attached...


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not to *bump* for this un-related, new article
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Toyota Launches GR Sub-Brand
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- Nick Saporito - Sept 20, 2017

Toyota has announced an entire lineup of new vehicles for Japan as part of a new sub-brand. Dubbed the GR models, the new lineup will commence the use of GR as Toyota’s performance sub-brand. Despite the sporty intentions, there’s not a lot of performance modifications on the GR lineup though.

So far Toyota has rolled out the GR trim only in Japan, but last week confirmed plans to launch the Yaris GRMN in Europe, suggesting the GR lineup will ultimately take on a global presence. The formula with GR appears to be, well, really simple. Toyota is focusing most of its efforts on upping the ante of sportiness inside and outside the models, while offering up one or two minor performance upgrades. Most models are getting revised suspension tuning...

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Toyota’s GR-series passenger cars...
Gazoo Racing, the automaker’s motorsport division and new in-house performance arm...
Interestingly, Gazoo literally means “image” in Japanese...

hoonable maniacs ...like... the supercharged Yaris GRMN (Gazoo Racing Masters of Nürburgring) with over 200 horsepower is a prime example...

Among them is the bewildering Prius Prime GR Sport, a hot hatch variant of the economy-minded hybrid. Toyota has officially lost its mind...

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96...
so some posts elsewhere got me to try applying "combination reduction"
like I'd used for Mission2020...

specifically 'tailoring':
• interior colors to exterior colors
• drivetrains to trim-themes
• features by trim-theme with (little-to-)no options
THE HITCH:
NOT cutting-down on build-variants per se but LIMITING the '''Orderable Combinations'''

10 paints overall
but not on every trim/drivetrain
ruby, burgundy, blacK, silver, met.White, OXfordW, graY, GreeN, deepBlue, medSteelBlue
6 interiors but Only 1 or 2 choices (dk/lt pairs) per paint color/trim
Multi-dark-Carbon, 'Beige' / blacK±deepBlue, tan / red+blacK, ceramic(almost white)
3 trims, 4 drivetrains ...2 high/2 low/all for mid-trim
— –
Top Trim Leather
drivetrains ———— paint colors —————– interiors # of combos
2.3T Awd - rby brg K sl W grY dBlue Steel - Kred, crm - 14
Energi ?wd —— brg K sl W GN dBlue ——— KBl, crm — 12

Mid Trim part-Leather OR alcantara/vinyl
2.3T Awd - brg K sl W grY dBlue Steel - Kred, tan, KBl - 12
Energi ?wd — brg K sl W GN dBlue ———— tan, KBl — 11
Hybrid Fwd - brg K sl W* OX GN dBlue —-— tan, KBl — 12
1.5T Fwd — brg K sl W* OX grY dBlue ——— tan, KBl — 11
_________________* extra cost
Base Trim cloth/vinyl
1.5T Fwd ——— brg* K sl OX grY dBlue* —–— MC, Bg — 12
Hybrid Fwd —— rby* K sl OX GN dBlue* ——— MC, Bg — 12

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Trims=Leather-match instead cloth
Climate Control & ventilated/powered fronts seats
Vista-moonroof instead of none
better entertainment gizmos instead of worse
more nannies instead of fewer/none
fog lamps plus interior Ambient Lighting instead of none
$25,999- / $27,999k- -$32,999k / -$35,999 ?
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^ I wasn't suggesting a Milan - just my Milan-method (LINK)
basically how to do the most with as little as feasible

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8 paints overall but not on every trim/drivetrain
red, blacK, silver, Blue, GreeN, graY, met.White, OXfordW
6 interiors but Only 1 per paint color
MidCarbon+red&blue graphics / <ditto in better material, tan / red,blue,white+blacK
3 trims, 3 drivetrains ...1 high/1 low/all for mid-trim

Top Trim Leather
drivetrains ———— paint colors ————— interiors # of combos
1.5T Awd —— red K, slv Blue, grY W —— r, b,or w+K —— 6

Mid Trim part-Leather OR alcantara/vinyl
1.5T Awd —— red K slv Blue — W* —–— MCrb, MC+tan — 5
Hybrid Fwd –– red K slv Blue GN W* —— MCrb, MC+tan — 6
1.0T Fwd —-— red K slv Blue — W* —-— MCrb, MC+tan — 5
__________________* extra cost
Base Trim cloth/vinyl
1.0T Fwd —-— red* - slv Blue* - OX —–— MCrb ————— 4

But NO way, NO how can I see a Focus-ST nor Focus-RS included in that 26
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