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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-28-2016, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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Traded in the MKC... for a Buick Envision

3 reasons, none of which individually would have been enough to look for another car, except perhaps the 3rd.

1. After 2 years, realized the back seat legroom was just too small.
2. Wanted a full-range adaptive cruise instead of one that isn't.
3. Had just about had it with the front park assist.

We didn't choose the MKX because it was too big. We have a small garage, and we apply a size test: Being able to open the tailgate when the garage door is closed and also being able to walk around the front of the car.

Short rant: the front park assist has a sharp, high-pitched beep whose volume can't be adjusted and whose tone is inappropriate in Lincoln Quiet Luxury. It can't be shut off permanently. It's a bother to shut it off temporarily. It intermittently beeps when driving in the rain and sometimes in traffic when we're almost a car length back of another car. Yes, we experienced it during our date night test drive. If we'd realized it could not be disabled we quite possibly would not have bought the MKC.

I'm not going to go on and on about the Envision. But I'll note that at $49k it's better equipped than any MKC and better equipped than a $56k-$60k GLC. And in this size class, the Envision, the Land Rover Discovery Sport and Jaguar F-Pace are the only other ones with actually cooled seats like the MKC.

Our MKC (Reserve with all the options) was a very nice car. But we normally keep the family car for quite a few years, and the MKC was not a keeper.
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Re: Traded in the MKC... for a Buick Envision

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Buicks offer cooled seats but ventilated seats only since they don't want to step on Cadillac's toes. Difference being is cooled seats tie in with the AC where Ventilated seats just run the fan.

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Hey man congratulations!

It seems u really did your homework. I sincerely hope that the Buick better suits your needs. It's definitely a handsome vehicle.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Buicks offer cooled seats but ventilated seats only since they don't want to step on Cadillac's toes. Difference being is cooled seats tie in with the AC where Ventilated seats just run the fan.

Just a quick search shows that Buick states that the seats are cooled AND ventilated. My moms old Lucerne had just ventilated I believe, and those were plenty cool and comfortable in Texas when I visited. So no worries either way FloridaMatt
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Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Buicks offer cooled seats but ventilated seats only since they don't want to step on Cadillac's toes. Difference being is cooled seats tie in with the AC where Ventilated seats just run the fan.
Actually and quite surprisingly the Envision, and I believe also the Enclave, offer actually-cooled seats while the Cadillac XT5 is only available with "heated and ventilated" seats. The XT5's owner manual expressly states that the seats do not cool. The ones in our Envision work well, and cool the backrest just slightly better than the seats in our MKC. It appears that the only other MKC/Envision competitors that offer actually cooled seats are JLR's Discovery Sport and F-Pace.

Cooled seats were standard in the XLR, but since then Cadillac has shown no interest in offering them. You couldn't get even plain old ventilated seats in the ELR. And the new CT6 doesn't even offer cooled seats, which I'm sure Continental salespeople will be happy to talk about.
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I really hope you're happy with your Envision! After all, we need a vehicle that suits our needs. Has there been any trouble due to, you know, THAT THING? (I don't want to say what it is due to it maybe causing a fight, but you probably know what I'm talking about.)
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Don't have a clue what "that thing" might be. There are things that are non-ideal. I miss the umbrella holder the MKC had. And it's a gm car, so I once again need to pick a suitable matte-finish vinyl wrap to cover the high-gloss interior surfaces that reflect so much Florida sunshine.
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I am not saying the MKC is bad, but I will never buy the Envision, no matter how good it is. It is all made and imported from China. Not piece by piece, but built there and put on a boat for you.
Sorry, not in my books. There are PLENTY of options out there for me to avoid that piece of crap.
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And that's what I meant. Have there been any problems from coming from over there?
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I really hope you're happy with your Envision! After all, we need a vehicle that suits our needs. Has there been any trouble due to, you know, THAT THING? (I don't want to say what it is due to it maybe causing a fight, but you probably know what I'm talking about.)
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Don't have a clue what "that thing" might be..................
The "Made in China" thing?

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