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What do you want to see from Lincoln?

This is my wish list

-Zephyr (we know this is coming) get rid of the swoopy shape and give it a more refined look like the continental

-Entry compact car to compete with the 3 series/C class, Versailles

-an entry level 3 row crossover priced between the C and the X, MKE?

-A compact crossover like the GLA class/QX30, MKA

-Mark 9, multiple versions sedan/coupe/convertible, a lower end one to compete with the Stingray/Boxster/Cayman and a higher end one to compete with the 911, M6, Z06 ETC, and limited editions to compete with the likes of the GT3.RS

-Aviator (this is coming)

-All Lincoln sedans to come in a 4 door convertible version (this isn't possible anymore because regulations )

-Full size flagship above the Conti to compete with the S class/7 series, Cosmopolitan

-The entire range of Lincoln cars from the Zephyr to the Navigator to come in electric and hybrid versions

-A performance division called greyhound (it was lincolns first logo and the greyhound is a racing dog)

-An electric division called Mark E

-A Bentley Bentayga fighter (if cadillac is making one why cant Lincoln?)



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post #2 of 284 (permalink) Old 07-11-2017, 01:23 PM
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Re: What do you want to see from Lincoln?

Welcome to the board! There are so many things to like about your post, though Ford would have to divert all their money to Lincoln's budget for this to happen.


We will have to settle for a much more gradual impovement for Lincoln.


I really like the greyhound idea, and it could be be used in many ways.

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Re: What do you want to see from Lincoln?

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This is my wish list

-Zephyr (we know this is coming) get rid of the swoopy shape and give it a more refined look like the continental

-Entry compact car to compete with the 3 series/C class, Versailles

-an entry level 3 row crossover priced between the C and the X, MKE?

-A compact crossover like the GLA class/QX30, MKA

-Mark 9, multiple versions sedan/coupe/convertible, a lower end one to compete with the Stingray/Boxster/Cayman and a higher end one to compete with the 911, M6, Z06 ETC, and limited editions to compete with the likes of the GT3.RS

-Aviator (this is coming)

-All Lincoln sedans to come in a 4 door convertible version (this isn't possible anymore because regulations )

-Full size flagship above the Conti to compete with the S class/7 series, Cosmopolitan

-The entire range of Lincoln cars from the Zephyr to the Navigator to come in electric and hybrid versions

-A performance division called greyhound (it was lincolns first logo and the greyhound is a racing dog)

-An electric division called Mark E

-A Bentley Bentayga fighter (if cadillac is making one why cant Lincoln?)



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I dissagre with the MKZ losing its sleek rear. I own a 2015 MKZ Hybrid and I think the back is what makes the car so beautiful and sporty looking.
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Re: What do you want to see from Lincoln?

I think they should keep the US Lincoln lineup pretty focused on what they have now along with the addition of Aviator. I would love to see an Electric Autonomous flagship, Lincoln definitely needs to do more with tech in general so there is a tremendous amount of room to just advance within their existing core footprint. A smaller SUV than MKC (once MKC gets bigger) would probably be the only lower entry product I would consider for Lincoln, the small sedan is probably best as a Chinese made exclusive.

I'd also like to see Lincoln move it's design language forward a bit more, needs more personality and confidence and less 'elderly' softness and anonymity.

As for a Lincoln Bentayga, Navigator is probably as far as Lincoln can go right now...which is pretty big leap for them as it is.

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My 2 cents: The last thing they should do is dredge up that awful name, Zephyr. The MKZ replacement should get a name but not that.

I think the Z replacement should be even swoopier and sportier. They could retain the general look of the current front end but lay it back more in a more aerodynamic slant. The current front does not go well with the rest of the car, in my opinion.

The Continental is too bland. The details are great but the overall look lacks excitement, especially the rear end.
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Re: What do you want to see from Lincoln?

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This is my wish list

-Zephyr (we know this is coming) get rid of the swoopy shape and give it a more refined look like the continental

-Entry compact car to compete with the 3 series/C class, Versailles

-an entry level 3 row crossover priced between the C and the X, MKE?

-A compact crossover like the GLA class/QX30, MKA

-Mark 9, multiple versions sedan/coupe/convertible, a lower end one to compete with the Stingray/Boxster/Cayman and a higher end one to compete with the 911, M6, Z06 ETC, and limited editions to compete with the likes of the GT3.RS

-Aviator (this is coming)

-All Lincoln sedans to come in a 4 door convertible version (this isn't possible anymore because regulations )

-Full size flagship above the Conti to compete with the S class/7 series, Cosmopolitan

-The entire range of Lincoln cars from the Zephyr to the Navigator to come in electric and hybrid versions

-A performance division called greyhound (it was lincolns first logo and the greyhound is a racing dog)

-An electric division called Mark E

-A Bentley Bentayga fighter (if cadillac is making one why cant Lincoln?)



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I think long term, we'll see Continental grow to become the true full size flagship, with MKZ/Zephyr scooting up, and depending on how sedans go, maybe a compact sedan to slot under "MKZ." I think we may see "MKZ" skew more toward a Conti-esque shape, but I don't want to see it go too far from the current form.

MKC is their compact crossover. There's not really room for a model between the C and X for some 3 row model. It may be possible to see a 3-row MKX at some point, but it sounds like that may be Chinese market only.

I've been told a Lincoln coupe is in the works.

Definitely agree that electric/hybridization needs to spread much further throughout the lineup.

Not sure why they need an electric "division." Perhaps they could label electrified models "Mark E."

I don't know what you're getting at with a Bentayga fighter. They'll have MKX, Aviator, and Navigator.

As for greyhound, I like the idea of it. But there's no way they'd go with that. It'd have too many negative connotations with the bus line. That's the first thing I think of when I hear it.
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Re: What do you want to see from Lincoln?

Here are a few name possibilities:

-Sentinel
-Paladin
-Aeronaut
-Meridian
-Azimuth
-Cartographer
-Constellation
-Cruiser
-Zenith

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I think we'll see this in a few years....

Sedans/coupes:
-Zenith (3-series/C-class competitor - this is the one I'm least sure of)
-Sentinel (MKZ replacement)
-Continental (becomes full size flagship)
-Paladin (next-gen Mustang-based coupe)

Crossovers/SUVs:
-Aeronaut (Mariner would be the ideal name, but I don't know if using a Mercury name is a good idea)
-Aviator (MKX replacement)
-Navigator Sport (Explorer-based model, what we've been calling Aviator)
-Navigator

Or

-Aeronaut (MKC)
-Meridian (MKX)
-Aviator (Explorer-based model)
-Navigator
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Re: What do you want to see from Lincoln?

Lincoln needs some kind of "coupe crossover" like de BMW X6/4 or Mercedes-Benz GLC Coupe. A bigger sedan is a must . And a coupe is a dream...
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Lincoln needs some kind of "coupe crossover" like de BMW X6/4 or Mercedes-Benz GLC Coupe. A bigger sedan is a must . And a coupe is a dream...
I didn't think of that. Though their appeal can be limited. I'd advocate that only after they get the core lineup fortified.
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