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post #21 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-23-2018, 03:35 AM
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Lincoln can make sedans but it will obviously need to do it with it's own budget and resources, which are extremely limited. Either way, it's too late to start now. Right now Lincoln is mostly a money loosing business with declining sales so I would not be entirely surprised if they just stick with the utilities Ford can make for them. The utilities will recover some of the lost volume from their unprofitable sedans with profitable utilities. China is essentially their last hope and that may determine what they ultimately invest in. Without the promise of China, I am absolutely certain Lincoln would have been folded. But if we are going to get Lincoln cars, China will make it possible. I do think Lincoln is struggling with the changes at Ford, but I think they'll still benefit from all their new utilities. If Lincoln can't grow with Corsair, Nautilus, Aviator, and Navigator, then it's probably never going to be worth Ford's time. I don't expect any of these cars to be blockbusters or particularly noteworthy in the grand scheme of the hyper competitive luxury market, but just getting Lincoln on the same playing field is a big step.
Lincoln is a boondoggle.

Let's face it, the luxury market of today is way too cutthroat of a business to enter. Lincoln is just one of the many struggling "newcomers".
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I think Ford will built the Mustang on the longitudinal unibody architecture (RWD architecture, CD6) soon. Ford will work with 5 architectures, and the old Mustang platform is not one of them. When we will see a Mustang on CD6? I think before 2025. The next Mustang will be a short runner, meanwhile Ford can adapt the CD6 for this kind of vehicle.
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I think Ford will built the Mustang on the longitudinal unibody architecture (RWD architecture, CD6) soon. Ford will work with 5 architectures, and the old Mustang platform is not one of them. When we will see a Mustang on CD6? I think before 2025. The next Mustang will be a short runner, meanwhile Ford can adapt the CD6 for this kind of vehicle.
I hope you are correct. It is disheartening to realize that Ford could not, would not or didn't know how to design/build a truly scalable modular platform after they announced so many years ago that CD6 would be just that. I remember insiders on FIN saying "wait till you see the CD6" after complaints about platform-poor Ford. We're still waiting but I still hope they can/will do it. Their past performance with platforms make it a slim hope but a hope nonetheless.
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Oh, and the Chinese are coming here with their crossovers. Their concepts (ach, there's that ugly word again) are looking incrementally better as their auto industry matures and competes.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/08/ch...-electric-suv/

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The next Mustang is all-new, this is the one and only chance for it to move to CD6, it won't come later because they don't want CD6 for Mustang.

I'm told the main reasons the CD6 Mustang was cancelled was because it was too costly to adapt and didn't achieve meaningful improvements to the existing platform both in cost and performance. Turns out they can do the same or better for less money with a revised version of the current platform. They really are doing what's best for their product, believe it or not.

Ford may very well consider the Mustang and CD6 platforms to be the same in terms of systems since they will share many things (Suspension, drivetrains, modules, etc.). Mustang has long resisted the move to shared platforms because it's expensive and often jeopardizes the Mustang team's ability to develop the platform characteristics they need to make the best Mustang possible.
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The next Mustang is all-new, this is the one and only chance for it to move to CD6, it won't come later because they don't want CD6 for Mustang.

I'm told the main reasons the CD6 Mustang was cancelled was because it was too costly to adapt and didn't achieve meaningful improvements to the existing platform both in cost and performance. Turns out they can do the same or better for less money with a revised version of the current platform. They really are doing what's best for their product, believe it or not.

Ford may very well consider the Mustang and CD6 platforms to be the same in terms of systems since they will share many things (Suspension, drivetrains, modules, etc.). Mustang has long resisted the move to shared platforms because it's expensive and often jeopardizes the Mustang team's ability to develop the platform characteristics they need to make the best Mustang possible.
Ok. You say the next Mustang will share some components (suspension,drive trains,modules)... so, the next Mustang will be built on the longitudinal unibody architecture... RWD architecture or CD6. Maybe the basic floor pan will be exclusive for the Mustang and maybe will be a modification of the current one, like some suspensions characteristics, but the mayor components will be common with others CD6 vehicles. So, the next Mustang will be a CD6 vehicle

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