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Uf XLR went to a Saloon based set up.. it would loose its handling Edge over competation.. like Lexus SC and SL.
I think they should keep it based on the Corvette frame
I didnt think it was on the Corvette chassis. If it is on it now, then they'd better keep the next gen on it. If it handles like a Corvette, it should definately stay on its' platform to keep its handling edge.


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I didnt think it was on the Corvette chassis. If it is on it now, then they'd better keep the next gen on it. If it handles like a Corvette, it should definately stay on its' platform to keep its handling edge.

It is indeed on the C6 platform. The XLR is built along side the Corvette in Bowling Green, Kentucky. The XLR has been something of a disappointment to Cadillac, sales wise. But because it is built where it is, and with a very popular and profitable sister vehicle, it will probably continue. It's handling and performance seem always to be praised. It's magnetic suspension system is also well regarded. In my opinion, the interior holds it back. As well as the pricing. It should sticker for about 10% less than it does.

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It is indeed on the C6 platform. The XLR is built along side the Corvette in Bowling Green, Kentucky. The XLR has been something of a disappointment to Cadillac, sales wise. But because it is built where it is, and with a very popular and profitable sister vehicle, it will probably continue. It's handling and performance seem always to be praised. It's magnetic suspension system is also well regarded. In my opinion, the interior holds it back. As well as the pricing. It should sticker for about 10% less than it does.
The XLR isn't exactly a looker, it looks like a cracker about to break. Its aestetical disadvantages are magnified by the gorgeous good looks of its competitors, XK and SL especially.



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It is indeed on the C6 platform. The XLR is built along side the Corvette in Bowling Green, Kentucky. The XLR has been something of a disappointment to Cadillac, sales wise. But because it is built where it is, and with a very popular and profitable sister vehicle, it will probably continue. It's handling and performance seem always to be praised. It's magnetic suspension system is also well regarded. In my opinion, the interior holds it back. As well as the pricing. It should sticker for about 10% less than it does.
The interior is defanitely not as nice as its competitiors like the Jaguar XK and the Mercedes SL. But Cadillac has come along way since the XLR came out. There is a good chance when the new XLR comes out it will be a big improvement.


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The XLR isn't exactly a looker, it looks like a cracker about to break. Its aestetical disadvantages are magnified by the gorgeous good looks of its competitors, XK and SL especially.
Again, a matter of opinion. I think it's beautiful. I was having some service done on my more plebian Cadillac last Saturday and spent the short wait time drooling over the black, '06 V-series XLR on display in the showroom. The manager asked me to step away from it a little. ( I was blocking the $5,000.00 discount sign.)


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Again, a matter of opinion. I think it's beautiful. I was having some service done on my more plebian Cadillac last Saturday and spent the short wait time drooling over the black, '06 V-series XLR on display in the showroom. The manager asked me to step away from it a little. ( I was blocking the $5,000.00 discount sign.)


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Lets just say that strictly talking about design, your "more plebeian" Cadillac is an inmensly better car than the XLR, in my opinion of course. The CTS much more authentic and that for me is of great value and permeates very easily to tthe collective contience of the buying public. The CTS is its own thing while the XLR is a not a not too happy attempt to fly where it doesn't belong. The new CTS only makes things better for Cadillac, although not that much better.



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Lets just say that strictly talking about design, your "more plebeian" Cadillac is an inmensly better car than the XLR, in my opinion of course. The CTS much more authentic and that for me is of great value and permeates very easily to tthe collective contience of the buying public. The CTS is its own thing while the XLR is a not a not too happy attempt to fly where it doesn't belong. The new CTS only makes things better for Cadillac, although not that much better.
If I recall, the XLR more than held its own in tests aganist the Blue bloods of Europe ... outperforming them becouse its covertte heritage.... and trashed the SC.. when it came out.

It was critisized for interior quality.. for not being up to snuff.. but that has been fixed by adding wood.. and whiter colors and leather on all surfaces in the platinum edition..

But.. perceptions have not changed.. Alas.. But.. the XLR is due for replacement like now.. they should not push it to 2010

Remember some of these cars, some of us may never afford.. unless its a tired 12 year old...

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If I recall, the XLR more than held its own in tests aganist the Blue bloods of Europe ... outperforming them becouse its covertte heritage.... and trashed the SC.. when it came out.

It was critisized for interior quality.. for not being up to snuff.. but that has been fixed by adding wood.. and whiter colors and leather on all surfaces in the platinum edition..

But.. perceptions have not changed.. Alas.. But.. the XLR is due for replacement like now.. they should not push it to 2010

Remember some of these cars, some of us may never afford.. unless its a tired 12 year old...

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I don't doubt it did but I am talking about design. I am just stating my opinion that the XLR is a very ugly car. I don't see any reedeming factor in its look, especially in its price segment. Corvette heritage is great but not a very impressive credential when you are competing with SL heritage. Nothing can be taken for granted in this segment.

Hopefully Cadillac will come with a good looking replacement for the XLR. Just by looking at the CTS makes me think they have the talent, somewhere in there.



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I don't doubt it did but I am talking about design. I am just stating my opinion that the XLR is a very ugly car. I don't see any reedeming factor in its look, especially in its price segment. Corvette heritage is great but not a very impressive credential when you are competing with SL heritage. Nothing can be taken for granted in this segment.

Hopefully Cadillac will come with a good looking replacement for the XLR. Just by looking at the CTS makes me think they have the talent, somewhere in there.
True.. a Rounded butt would have helped.
My personal opinion is that the Covertte is very close to Porsche like status.. if they keep improving.. Even Europeans cannot ignore it now
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True.. a Rounded butt would have helped.
My personal opinion is that the Covertte is very close to Porsche like status.. if they keep improving.. Even Europeans cannot ignore it now
They definately cannot afford to ignore the Corvette. Now, especially with the 600 hp version on the way even though it will be available in limited numbers should have Porshe and friends starting to tremble.

About the XLR. It is a nice car. I have never sat inside one, but by the looks of the pictures, the Jag XK and the Mercedes SL look better.

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http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh..._Dashboard.jpg

Mercedes:
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/...sRedesign1.jpg

In my opinion the Jag is the best looking, I love the wood they use and the simple design.


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