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Great, now can we have a wagon version please?
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from 2018 Honda Accord: press release

Advanced Safety and Driver-Assistive Technology
For 2018, all Accords will feature the full suite of Honda Sensing® safety and driver-assistive technologies as standard equipment. Honda Sensing includes:
• Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (CMBS™),
• Lane Departure Warning,
• Road Departure Mitigation,
• Adaptive Cruise Control with Low-Speed Follow and
• new Traffic Sign Recognition.
Additional available driver-assistive technologies include
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· Blind Spot Information,
· front and rear parking sensors,
· Cross Traffic Monitor and
· Driver Awareness Monitor;
and all models feature a:
Multi-Angle Rearview Camera with dynamic guidelines.

Standard advanced active and passive safety systems include:
- Vehicle Stability Assist with Traction Control,
- Anti-lock brakes with Electronic Brake Distribution,
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS),
- advanced front airbags, driver and front-passenger side airbags and
- new driver and front-passenger knee airbags.
The Honda Accord targets top U.S. government (NCAP) and IIHS collision safety ratings...
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Re: 2018 Honda Accord: Dad's Civic?/Explained

I still think the Fusion is one of the best looking midsize sedans despite its age, although the interior is one of the worst in the segment. Technologically the Fusion has some catching up to do but we won't be getting a 10-speed transmissions anytime soon.

I don't know why Ford chose to go with a transmission dial when everybody is going the Lincoln route with buttons, hopefully that changes soon.
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While moving to push button transmissions is the future, the traditional lever shifter still seems safer since we're used to it. Looking down or anywhere to see what button we're pushing while driving doesn't seem safe.
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I honestly really like the new Accord, just looks amazing! Do hate that the V6 is gone though.
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Although i'm not a fan of the huge chrome grille bar and taillights, the proportions look good.

It's good to see Honda continue the low beltline-low cowl design.

The all-new Accord is also lighter, that's the direction Ford's car models should be going.

- https://www.motor1.com/news/173571/2018-honda-accord/

The curb weight of the outgoing 2017 Accord 2.4 is already a light 3170 lbs for the MT and 3239 lbs for the CVT.
Shedding 110 lbs to 176 lbs is impressive in this modern world of cars getting heavier and bloated.

For comparison a Focus ST weighs 3223 lbs.
WOW!

I am in the market for a premium compact car with an Independent Rear suspension.
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WOW!
The smaller Ford Fusion is 3,431 lbs to start.

I don't know if it's the age of just the lack of engineering investment, but most Ford vehicles are both significantly overweight and undersized without the benefit of good crash scores. They have a tremendous amount of catching up to do.
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The smaller Ford Fusion is 3,431 lbs to start.

I don't know if it's the age of just the lack of engineering investment, but most Ford vehicles are both significantly overweight and undersized without the benefit of good crash scores.
The current Fusion's platform is derived from the previous Mondeo's EUCD platform.
It's basically modifying an older style platform to meet the latest standards (tends to be heavier and leaves little room for interior packaging improvements) vs doing a clean-sheet design engineered to meet the latest safety standards.


PS: Same case with the current Focus, the Mk3's platform is based on the Mk2's C1 platform.

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The current Fusion's platform is derived from the previous Mondeo's EUCD platform.
It's basically modifying an older style platform to meet the latest standards (tends to be heavier and leaves little room for interior packaging improvements) vs doing a clean-sheet design engineered to meet the latest safety standards.


PS: Same case with the current Focus, the Mk3's platform is based on the Mk2's C1 platform.
The problem with falling behind is that You are in the positon where you cannot no longer afford to take incremental Steps forward, but you are forced to make leaps and Revolutionary changes, which increases Risk, and money.

Ford in 2010 had to make a leap from the C170 architecture to the gen 2 C1 architecture, and will have to make another leap to the C3 platform, which looks to be behind the competition when it launches in 2020.

You can't take breaks or short cuts to success, Ford no longer can afford to launch and leave and hope to catch up, it isn't working.

the compromises of the past have left Ford in this position where the mustang grew while the Camaro shrunk, the focus is only 100 lbs lighter than the Accord, and 100lbs heavier than the larger Civic.
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Re: 2018 Honda Accord: Dad's Civic?/Explained

Ford and GM tend to lack product consistency and cadence, no product has been more inconsistent than Ford Focus which has ultimately doomed the product from having a stable customer in the US like Honda Civic. I don't think there will be a significant audience for Focus once it returns after it's hiatus and in some ways it's probably good for Ford to shed those customers before that happens.
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