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Design-wise, lack of a "prestige gap" is not awkward on SUVs which, proportionately, look like scaled-up hatches. What impresses me about the Jaguar I-Pace is its short front overhang. Terrific!
We should see more short front overhangs with EVs since there is no big engine, and it's other components to house up front. I really hope Ford/Lincoln is building a midsize, 116+ wheelbase EV battery pack platform, so it can be used on midsize/large sedans, CUVs and SUVs and an electric Mustang!!!! Then a smaller platform/pack for compact and sub-compact models. As long as it initially offers an option for 200+ and 300+ miles of range.

I am really hoping that the next gen Focus sedan is offered with the 300+ mile pack Ford has been talking about.
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We should see more short front overhangs with EVs since there is no big engine, and it's other components to house up front. I really hope Ford/Lincoln is building a midsize, 116+ wheelbase EV battery pack platform, so it can be used on midsize/large sedans, CUVs and SUVs and an electric Mustang!!!! Then a smaller platform/pack for compact and sub-compact models. As long as it initially offers an option for 200+ and 300+ miles of range.

I am really hoping that the next gen Focus sedan is offered with the 300+ mile pack Ford has been talking about.
Your desires will be realized by 2030, when EVs will be reasonably profitable.
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2019 Jaguar I-Pace:
brief first drive of all-electric luxury crossover

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- Aaron Cole - Apr 1, 2018

- A parking lot in suburban New Jersey isn’t the first place I’d look for a revolution.
-- According to Jaguar, it’s where ours will start.
--- After just over four minutes behind the wheel of the 2019 Jaguar I-Pace, the electric Jaguar feels like the beginning of something.

As the first luxury battery electric vehicle from a mainstream automaker, the I-Pace will be followed by many more from other automakers—dozens if the timeline stretches far enough into the future.

Its all-electric powertrain is hardly revolutionary. The 90-kilowatt-hour liquid-cooled lithium-ion battery tucked under the cabin floor of the I-Pace, and its twin 147-kilowatt motors at the front and rear axles, hardly register as a surprise anymore.

That extended timeline will eventually expand to include the more classic Jaguars in the automaker’s renovated headquarters in Mahwah, New Jersey. The past is equally important as the future in the I-Pace.

Planted next to sexy E-Types and sturdy, boxy Land Rovers, the I-Pace’s “spaceship” design is more than a departure. Revolution? Maybe.

Fast, furiously
I get one shot at driving an I-Pace, on an improvised autocross course at Jaguar’s new U.S. headquarters.

Gray skies, gray asphalt, and a gray I-Pace lacked flavor, so the electric Jag had to provide color for the day.

The 432 nickel-manganese-cobalt cells that power the I-Pace also add prodigious weight to the tall wagon’s frame. Despite a length just fractions of an inch greater than a compact XE sedan, the Jaguar I-Pace interior feels as large as a full-size XJ sedan—and its 4,800-pound curb weight feels closer to a Range Rover.

Unlike any car or SUV from the automaker, the I-Pace replaces Jaguar’s rotary drive selector with three silver buttons—for reverse, neutral, and drive—and a black button for park.

They flank a lower touchscreen for climate controls, which sounds more complicated than it is. It’s modern, but hardly “Star Trek” stuff.



Jaguar took a similar simple tack for the EV drive. The I-Pace can be programmed to creep at idle when the driver releases the brake (functionally irrelevant for most EV owners) or sit still.

It can also toggle between drive modes: one is a two-pedal, comparatively Victorian drive, the other offering aggressive regen (up to 0.4 G) for effective one-pedal operation.

There is no sport or “Ludicrous” mode, and virtually no ability to vary how the twin motors deliver power. Call it “EV for Beginners,” which should cover most I-Pace buyers slow to adopt electric powertrains.

Speed, but weight
But the electric Jag moved fast. Its 512 pound-feet of torque is near-instant and convincing after a stab at the accelerator. Power is split equally between front and rear motors, delivering an urgent but not abrupt takeoff into our parking-lot gymkhana.

Steering the heavy I-Pace is hardly a chore: The wheel is light and vaguely connected to the road. The car’s weight may be its greatest liability—it pitches and rolls, just as physics tells it to—but four-wheel independent suspension assisted by standard air suspension is one of its best assets.

Around the course, with increasing speed, the I-Pace compensated well for its weight. It feels and rides tall like a Subaru Outback, but manages some of its body motions better.

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Am I the only one that really doesn't find the i-Pace attractive at all?

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Am I the only one that really doesn't find the i-Pace attractive at all?
No. You're not alone.

Vehicles with the windshield above the front wheels and with the front door cutline right behind the front wheel-well are simply going to look awkward unless it's a 2-seater and the engine is immediately behind the driver.

In profile, it's just another blunt instrument as are most all SUV/CUVs. At least, on the iPace, the front overhang is gone but that doesn't seem to help much.
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In compact cars, especially CUV-ish profiles, I like the cab/windshield forward look, and of course the added interior roominess minus a long wheel base are the benefits.

This Jag is sexy.
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Am I the only one that really doesn't find the i-Pace attractive at all?
Not at all. It has some good points, but the long body and super short front and even shorter rear overhang looks out of balance. Along with the extra long rear door compared with the front door. Then it's the tall body with the very low front end.

It's like they tried to mesh together a sedan and SUV. It just looks out odd. But the interior is fantastic and a warning to Tesla that they had better get up to speed with 'luxury' car interiors.

Design wise, the Model 3 is a good example how a low front end works best with a lower body line.

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^ I've seen a couple 3's in person = Not impressed
imho it lost about All the S's gracefulness/appeal


I can't really know until I see the 'I' in person but
from PIX I definitely like the way...
...JAGuLR is re-inventing the silhouette of the 'CAR'
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