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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 03-23-2017, 06:21 PM
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If you're talking about just design/look, that makes sense, but Quattroporte and the Ghibli are surprisingly cheap inside - mismatched color plastics, cheap materials, etc.

You are referring to the earlier cars. From the Zegna limited editions to the interior upgrades across the board for 2017 in the upper trim levels your assertions are in my humble opinion no longer the case. I enjoy the S Klasse because it features a bit of baroque styling, and design flair sorely missing in earlier MB products.


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Looking at all three, the Audi is too bland with a design that we have seen on $30k Audi models. The BMW front end looks like a mix between a CUV and trying to be a bigger 3-series, and less luxury than it should be....just making design elements bigger don't make them luxury. The MB is the closest to meet the luxury mark, but how the giant LEDs headlights are placed are a bit over done and take away from the elegance of S-Class. Again, bigger design elements don't make them more luxury, it just makes the sedan look like it has parts from a CUV.
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didn't want to make a new thread but really liked the chassis materials part...
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The exterior and interior of the new Audi A8 has been partially revealed in a new teaser video.

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thought-provoking comment from Swizzle @ CarSpyShots
"...Audi just isn't in the hunt. They'd be better off just giving up on the A8 and then VAG doing a $100K (base) Bentley sedan..."

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Saddens me that Audi was opted out of the MSB platform, and now it remains the exclusive property of Bentley and Porsche.


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Saddens me that Audi was opted out of the MSB platform, and now it remains the exclusive property of Bentley and Porsche.
It appears that the MSB was a Porsche development that was ported to Bentley and that VW elected not to spread it too widely. Audi not sharing MLB/MQB architecture would be a waste of development capital, leaving only MQB for VW, Skoda and SEAT.

I agree that Audis would be better as RWD-based cars but VWAG is in a bind with a surplus of new modular platforms. I wish that Ford had that (good) problem.
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As I Google issues to resolve my sons A4 with 84K miles on it, which includes excessive oil consumption, fouled plugs, heater stopped working and idiot sensor lights that include brake pads of all things.....I am cursing out the German automaker in several languages that I am fluent in, because I am looking at thousands of dollars to repair.

To think that I sold our 130K mile Fusion, which has never had an issue, for this German POS, has me pulling my hair with great vigor.
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Mercedes Benz S: 1. Steak & Sizzle.

BMW 7: 0. Steak

Audi A8: 0. Steak.
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It appears that the MSB was a Porsche development that was ported to Bentley and that VW elected not to spread it too widely. Audi not sharing MLB/MQB architecture would be a waste of development capital, leaving only MQB for VW, Skoda and SEAT.

I agree that Audis would be better as RWD-based cars but VWAG is in a bind with a surplus of new modular platforms. I wish that Ford had that (good) problem.
Audi was initially included in the MSB platform matrix, and it was reported to be a late change that they were not to continue in that direction.


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