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Re:#3 ...Virtual-Awds (thru-the-road hybrids/plug-ins)

they had a painted-up i8 at our local autoshow last month - still yummy BUT

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Virtual-Awds ...The Revenge of the AfterMarket!

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Electric Axles and the 4WD Ford F150 EV!
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by G. David Felt - Posted 02 June 2016

Researching for conversion of my 1994 GMC SLE Suburban to electric made me think about 4WD as it is currently just a 2WD rig. As I started to search I found many options for taking certain electric motors and connecting them to the transmission and using what is there already on AWD/4WD auto's for moving the vehicle. I got to thinking much like Tesla, what about an Axle Electric motor solution and started to search to see what was out there and was very surprised to find many interesting home grown and some commercial options...

...This design allowed them to take a 2009 Ford F150 Pickup and dump the existing powertrain, including driveline, heavy axle and create an 4WD Pickup without having to touch the existing handling characteristics by putting the battery pack in the exact center of the auto to keep the truck hauling and handling just like Ford Engineered it to be...

...So what about Horsepower and Torque? This is where is gets really exciting as this Ford F150 with the 4WD in Wheel motors produces the following:

2,300 lbs feet of combined torque from a dead stop
448 HP from the combined 4 motors...

much much MORE...
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^...this reminds me of the more recent Fiesta eWheelDrive prototype Ford and Schaeffler developed, with putting the motors in the wheels to save space for passengers/cargo.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/meet-...fiesta-360061/

hummmm.....two Ford vehicles, similar in-wheel EV technology. Just thinking. This could be a way that Ford can get around completely new EV ONLY platforms, by moving the motors to the wheels, and freeing up that space for batteries, allowing the platform to also be used for an EV, hybrid or ICE vehicle.

Tesla on the other hand has no need for a 'convertible' EV platform, since all they offer is EV. But Ford has to meet consumer demands for all 3 types of drivetrains.
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I am also waiting for an update on this:

FORD ACCELERATES EXPANSION OF ELECTRIFIED VEHICLE BATTERY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, BENEFITING CUSTOMERS WORLDWIDE

Ford is expanding its global battery research and development footprint for electrified vehicles this year, adding research and engineering capabilities in Europe and Asia to take advantage of new market opportunities

The company has invested in a world-class battery research and development facility at the University of Michigan to accelerate advanced battery research and development

Ford is the top seller of plug-in hybrid vehicles and second in total sales of electrified vehicles in America and has recently expanded its offerings in growing markets, including China, Taiwan and Korea

This year, for instance, Ford expanded its Electrified Powertrain Engineering (EPE) program in Dearborn to focus on developing new and innovative technologies for electrified vehicles by hiring more than 120 additional electrified vehicle engineers and moving the EPE team into its own dedicated facility, Ford Engineering Laboratory.

Ford also is expanding in China and Europe to accelerate battery technology research and development for new markets. By using an innovative hardware and software system called HIL, or Hardware-in-the-Loop, the global team can test battery technology and control system hardware in a virtual environment to simulate how batteries and control modules would behave in different – often punishing – environments in any part of the world.

University of Michigan Battery Lab
In October, Ford, the University of Michigan and the Michigan Economic Development Corporation announced a new $9 million battery lab at the University of Michigan that is helping the company develop batteries that are smaller, lighter and less expensive to produce.

The state-of-the-art, small-scale manufacturing facility uses the latest battery development and research technologies to replicate the performance of full-scale production batteries, allowing for faster implementation in future production vehicles.

“The Battery Lab gives us an opportunity to test hundreds of chemistries and cell designs that can then be translated into the production line,” said Ted Miller, senior manager of energy storage strategy and Research. “This is truly a world-class environment for Ford to develop and test industry-leading battery technology.”
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Here is the Protean Drive layout in the F-150 platform. Look at all that real estate for storage or more batteries!

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Re: Virtual-Awds (thru-the-road hybrids/plug-ins)

was thinking of posting in this thread cuz saw something about another V-Awd...and didn't
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...Although the specifications of the next-generation 911, due in about three years, won't be known until closer to its premiere, details of the first Porsche 911 hybrid are taking shape – potentially a Carrera 4 with electrically-driven front wheels and petrol-powered rear wheels...
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Porsche’s Plan: More Horsepower, More Hybrids - MotorTrend
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May 07, 2014

...700 hp is the new normal (Lamborghini Aventador, Ferrari F12 Berlinetta), and Porsche doesn’t compete in that space. But they will by 2017.

Expect hybridized, plug-in 700-plus-hp versions of both the Panamera Turbo S and the 911 Turbo S. The technology will easily and effectively trickle down from the 918 Spyder because for one, software is software and already paid for. For another, electric traction motors and lithium ion batteries are easy to scale. Sound farfetched? Remember that some European city centers will be Zero-Emissions Zones (aka ZEZs, where internal combustion and regular hybrids will be banned) sooner than later, and plug-in hybrids seem to be the only solution save for pure electric vehicles...
...It also makes sense that the range-topping (and therefore most expensive) versions of each Porsche will get hybridized. We can also guess that if the 156-hp electric motor from the rear of the 918 can fit between the gas engines and PDK transmissions that total output will be around 725-730 hp...

...expect Cayenne Coupe and Panamera Sport Turismo pricing to start at $185K and go up...

More...
Development of a Porsche 911 Plug-In Hybrid Is Truly Dead
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| by Jens Meiners | May 11, 2017


Porsche was set to put a plug-in-hybrid version of the next-gen 911 sports car into series production, but we’ve learned the project was killed a while ago—last year, in fact, according to August Achleitner, head of 718 and 911 development. He revealed that fact to Car and Driver today at an event held to celebrate production of the 1,000,000th 911...
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Re: Virtual-Awds (thru-the-road hybrids/plug-ins)

saw a(n overly?) favorable review on MotorWeek-PBS so googled Acura's 3rd (THIRD) V-Awd...


2017 Acura MDX Virtual-Awd Sport Hybrid

Acura's biggest hit gains a hybrid halo

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April 2017 By BENGT HALVORSON
Highs
Vivid powertrain response, great city mpg, even better handling than the standard MDX.
Lows
Infotainment remains an ergonomic disaster, token third row, forget about towing.

Specifications
VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, all-wheel-drive, 6- or 7-passenger, 4-door hatchback
BASE PRICES: Technology, $52,935; Advance, $58,975
ENGINE TYPE: SOHC 24-valve 3.0-liter V-6, 257 hp, 218 lb-ft; 1 permanent-magnet synchronous AC motor, 47 hp, 109 lb-ft; 2 permanent-magnet synchronous AC motors, 36 hp (each), 54 lb-ft (each); combined output, 321 hp, 289 lb-ft; (only) 1.3-kWh lithium-ion battery pack
TRANSMISSION: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic with manual shifting mode
DIMENSIONS: 196.2 - 111.0 - 77.7 - 67.4

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"...Sport+ Mode Was Made For Us
Acura’s big crossover comes with four driving modes that allow it to act like four completely different cars. As you move through the modes from least to most aggressive, the MDX Sport Hybrid’s active damper system stiffens up, the powertrain becomes more responsive, the V6 engine becomes louder, and the controls have more feedback..."
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