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Automaker plans to add 13 electric, plug-in models in 5 years
Such vehicles to rise to 40% of lineup from 13% now, CEO says

...Fields said plug-in hybrids will be the fastest-growing type of electric vehicles...
One thing, when Ford talks about "models", that includes all trim levels in each vehicle. Go to Ford website
and click on Fusion, then see "models" and click on that, there's two energi models there SE and Titanium
Now, do the same with C-max, there's one model, SEL energi.

So, that's three at the moment and I wouldn't put it past Ford to include Lincoln Trim levels
asn Chinese variation into that 13 models as well. So maybe two versions across six cars and Utilities..

And then there's Ford's electrification work on F150 and maybe Expedition / Navigator.

Great times to see Ford forging out with more PHEVs, the complexion of Ford's vehicles in Nth America
and internationally is going to change massivly in the next five years or so...
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One thing, when Ford talks about "models", that includes all trim levels in each vehicle. Go to Ford website
and click on Fusion, then see "models" and click on that, there's two energi models there SE and Titanium
Now, do the same with C-max, there's one model, SEL energi.

So, that's three at the moment and I wouldn't put it past Ford to include Lincoln Trim levels
asn Chinese variation into that 13 models as well. So maybe two versions across six cars and Utilities..

And then there's Ford's electrification work on F150 and maybe Expedition / Navigator.

Great times to see Ford forging out with more PHEVs, the complexion of Ford's vehicles in Nth America
and internationally is going to change massivly in the next five years or so...

It may be more due to this quote from Ford:

"when more than 40 percent of the company’s global nameplates will come in electrified versions. "

Now they are taking about nameplates (Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Edge, etc), so we should see more widespread electrification across the lineup.

But it is amazing how Ford can offer so little actual product information in a press release about spending about 1 billion a year for the next 5 years.
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"Solving a quick math equation reveals the 2017 Focus Electric will boast a total driving range of approximately 125 miles, a nearly 50-mile improvement over the current model.

Read more: http://www.leftlanenews.com/2017-for...#ixzz3u3JeD9r0

Not sure how they calculated that.

"which features all-new DC fast-charge capability delivering an 80 percent charge in an estimated 30 minutes and projected 100-mile range

Which does not mean that there will be 100 miles with an 80 percent charge. Just that the pack has a projected 100 mile range. More like 80 miles in 30 minutes. But I do expect the 2017 Focus Electric to offer at least a EPA 107 total or more EV miles to match or beat the longest range Leaf.

Another question is will Ford actually start to market the Focus Electric after this update?
Got confirmation from Ford:

"100 estimated mile range.

80% charge estimate in 30 minutes (which would be 80 miles). "
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..."when more than 40 percent of the company’s global nameplates will come in electrified versions"...
anyone know how many "nameplates" FoMoCo HAS total??
if 13 is ~40% :: total= 32˝
if 19 is ~40% :: total= 47˝

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It may be more due to this quote from Ford:

"when more than 40 percent of the company’s global nameplates will come in electrified versions. ".
OK, flip that around and more than 50% of Ford's name plates won't have an electrified version,
I think it's important to remember that to give us grounding on what to expect so that we don't
think or feel like Ford is under delivering...

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Now they are taking about nameplates (Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Edge, etc), so we should see more widespread electrification across the lineup.

But it is amazing how Ford can offer so little actual product information in a press release about spending about 1 billion a year for the next 5 years
Will electrification be limited to the successors of C1 and CD4?
That sounds like the plan to me..

And remember, electrification in smaller vehicles could be as simple as finding
low cost replacements for euro diesels (1.0 - 1.5 + small hybrid battery)
to mostly improve Urban or City cycle fuel consumption which really
improves the combined figure used to calculate CO2 levels.
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Below are the nameplates I can came up with. 40% would be quite a few models, about 15-18 models globally.

Ka
Figo
Fiesta
Fiesta ST
B-MAX
New Ford EcoSport
New Focus
The New Focus ST
Focus RS
New C-MAX
KUGA
Mondeo
Taurus
Vignale
New Mustang
S-MAX
Galaxy
Edge
Ranger
Tourneo Custom
Tourneo Connect

Fiesta Van
Transit Courier
Transit Connect
Transit Custom
Transit Minibus
Transit Chassis Cab 2015

F-150
F-250
F-350
F-650
F-750
SuperDuty
Raptor
GT
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So how will Ford spend this $4.5 Billion to achieve those 13 models by 2020,
will they be basically three or four vehicles but different models within those vehicles to get numbers up?...
made me wonder if Listing by platform/segment/size would be helpful

... C1 .. car.. Focus Hybrid, BEV
... C1 .. mpv.. C-Maxs(or replacements)
... C1 .. Cuv.. Escape Hybrid; MKC PI
..CD4... car.. Fusion Hybrid, PI; MKZ Hybrid, PI, BEV
..CD4 .. mpv.. ?
..CD4 .. Cuv.. Edge Hybrid; MKX PI
CD4+3. car.. Continental ?
CD4+3. mpv.. ?
CD4+3. Cuv.. Aviator ?
. other... ? ... ?
. other...also wondering about the Ranger & Bronco...

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via CleanTechnica.com
note: C-Max^ / Fusion^ / Focus^ / camo's^ HLs don't match any imho

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Any idea what this is from the NAIAS Teaser video?

The lower grille does not match anything Ford currently offers and it's not SUV/CUV. And it's smaller than a Fusion.

Could it be Ford's new hybrid vehicle since this teaser is all about electrified vehicles?

The hybrid that is to take on the Prius?

Or the plug-in hybrid that is to take on the 50 EV mile Volt?

Or the 200+ mile EV to take on the Bolt?

What has Ford been up to?

Either way, I think we are looking at a New Ford Vehicle!
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We know there will be BIG NEWS about electrified vehicles from Ford at NAIAS 2015.

It looks like it's not just the 'Fusion' Enegi. If we look closely, there is a blue Focus Electric, then a red Focus, and just one C-Max.

What's the Focus doing there with the electrified vehicles?

Could it be that we are getting a Focus Energi along with the new 100+ mile Focus Electric? If we remember, the Focus Energi was rumored last year, with Ford taking to business about it's desirability.

This just might be the time, since EV range is about to get extended with MY2017. Focus Electric gets a 35% range increase. That same 35% increase would offer close to EPA 30 EV miles for a Focus Energi, C-Max Energi and Fusion Energi. But they need 50 to compete with Volt.

C-MAX Hybrid would be replaced by Ford's new dedicated hybrid that could be in the image above.
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