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The 9 speed should be about a year from now, maybe slightly longer.
GM launches in about a year. Is a few months really worth all the drama and concern.

And NO, Lincoln should not have waited.
That's not how they typically do things.
It's all in the timing. If the Continental was to have the 9-speed at launch, it would have been delayed until MY2019 at the earliest. The 10-speed in the highest volume vehicle has to launch first in the current F-150, then in refreshed Mustang and Next Gen Expedition/Navigator.

Ford has to get those new launched underway before launching another new transmission in next gen models.
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GM plans 10 models with 9-speed transmission by ’17
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...2017 Malibu...$32,000 — $10,000 more than the standard L model with 1.5-liter turbo...
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...GM declined to disclose what models outside of Chevrolet will feature the new transmission. But GM confirmed it is compatible on other vehicles with the same platforms of the three announced vehicles. Meagher said a fourth Chevrolet vehicle with the transmission will “be announced very soon.”...

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GM's new 9-speed has all sorts of patents on it because they managed to get 9 forward gears while using about half the parts one would expect in a transmission with that many speeds. I don't understand the full technical ramifications of what GM did, but apparently it is fairly groundbreaking transmission design. It's seriously tiny as far as transmissions go. Physically, there's no reason they couldn't fit it in cars as small as the Spark or Adam...
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Re: Peeking Inside The GM/Ford Transverse Nine Speed Transmission

Thanks 2B2! Enclosed is an article on the new GM/Ford Nine-Speed automatic transmission published by WA in early December 2016.

http://wardsauto.com/technology/new-...-limit-gm-says
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I still need to learn WTHeck a "selectable 1-way clutch" is
+ "The new 9-speed yielded GM 60 new patents and required 800 prototypes"... I fear they needed MORE
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Last year's GM/collaboration 9-speed transmission... thread in the CompetitionNews section

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Enclosed is an AW article on the 2017 Chevrolet Malibu Premier. The brief article is significant because of it's take on the nine-speed automatic transmission, GM developed with Ford. If the nine-speed automatic is this good in the Chevy, it bodes well for future applications in Ford products.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-revi...ppy-turbo-four
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GM makes superb transmissions so I'm very glad Ford is taking advantage of their expertise, it has been sorely needed. I have never seen a glowing review of a Ford transmission like this in my life and it has always been the achilles heal in every Ford or Lincoln I've owned, although they have worked miracles on most of the 6-speeds combined with EcoBoost.
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Where is the review? There is barely a couple brief paragraphs. Do you have to find a sub link or something?

And let's not blow too much smoke up GM's ass, while simultaneously condemning every single Ford transmission in history. They both have made less than stellar pieces that were thin skinned in the past as well as workhorse units. Overall, I would conclude that GM has done better, but let's not get carried away. The Ford engineered 10 speed appears to be a great unit too. It has done well with GM's calibration in the Camaro Z28, which is far easier than a truck with 7 shift modes. I understand the truck to be a nightmare in calibration. But when it appears with Mustang, it should also receive praise. One hopes anyway.

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"Chevrolet's 2017 Malibu will arrive with an optional nine-speed automatic transmission that improves fuel economy by 3% and marks the brand's first implementation of a nine-speed automatic."

http://www.automotive-fleet.com/chan...17-malibu.aspx
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Where is the review? There is barely a couple brief paragraphs. Do you have to find a sub link or something?

And let's not blow too much smoke up GM's ass, while simultaneously condemning every single Ford transmission in history. They both have made less than stellar pieces that were thin skinned in the past as well as workhorse units. Overall, I would conclude that GM has done better, but let's not get carried away. The Ford engineered 10 speed appears to be a great unit too. It has done well with GM's calibration in the Camaro Z28, which is far easier than a truck with 7 shift modes. I understand the truck to be a nightmare in calibration. But when it appears with Mustang, it should also receive praise. One hopes anyway.
Here is a little more of a review...

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/12/...vrolet-malibu/
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