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Awesome awesome awesome. It's about time Ford got on the ball with electrification. They're falling behind fast! But things like a hybrid F-150 and Mustang will put them towards the top yet again.
I think Ford is still second only to BMW in total EV vehicles sold.
But electrification includes PHEV and hybrid too, and with that metric, I think Ford is second only to Toyota. I may be wrong.

Edit: BTW, I don't consider a Volt an EV vehicle, but a PHEV.
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Ok ok ok this is big news and lots of questions rolling in my head now.

Hybrid Mustang has my ear! They stated V8 power which makes me believe that it won't be paired with the V8 but maybe the 2.3 EcoBoost? It's all in how it's worded

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A hybrid version of the iconic Mustang that will deliver V8 power and even more low-end torque
But correct me if I am wrong. Either way that will give the Mustang an edge in the muscle car competition. We are seeing this market change quite a bit with the AWD Challenger as well (too bad it's only a V6 though).

BUT if this is the 2.3 EcoBoost hybrid I hope to god that it makes it in the MKZ Hybrid giving the Lincoln some differentiation between the Fusion Hybrid. Interesting times a head!

I hope Continental gets a hybrid option as well though this news seems to be for Ford only.

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7 Electrified Vehicles Confirmed:

* Also note that Ford is very loose/vegue with what will be a hybrid and what will be a plug-in hybrid

1. F-150 Hybrid - as we know just hybrid won't offer much more power--for long, or power to run a generator, but plug-in hybrid will.

2. Mustang Hybrid - plug-on hybrid is necessary for as much power needed for the Mustang to be fun to drive.

3. 300+ mile small SUV EV

4. Ride Sharing Hybrid

5. Transit Custom plug-in hybrid (Europe Only)

6. Pursuit Rated (NG Explorer/Expedition) Hybrid (plug-in hybrid)

7. Pursuit Rated (NG Taurus) Hybrid (plug-in hybrid)


There are still 6 more to go by 2020 or 2021....

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C'mon Ed get with it!
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Ok ok ok this is big news and lots of questions rolling in my head now.

BUT if this is the 2.3 EcoBoost hybrid I hope to god that it makes it in the MKZ Hybrid giving the Lincoln some differentiation between the Fusion Hybrid. Interesting times a head!

I hope Continental gets a hybrid option as well though this news seems to be for Ford only.
i thought LINCOLN when I read about the wireless charging. The Lincoln customer should not have to plug-in their vehicle at home every night, it should charge itself....that's luxury. I did notice the announcement had no Lincoln news...so expecting something else for Lincoln to come soon.
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Im kind of curious about the hybrid Mustang as all thats going to do is add weight. Wondering if it maybe will be a regular RWD Mustang with electric motors on the front wheels that could provide torque vectoring as well as AWD grip. The F150 is a no brainer, augmenting the gas engine with a high torque electric motor. Also using the truck as a generator at the job site.
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An all-new fully electric small SUV, coming by 2020, engineered to deliver an estimated range of at least 300 miles, to be built at the Flat Rock plant and sold in North America, Europe and Asia

That big 100 kWh battery pack(same as Tesla P100D) should have Ford creating their first EV platform (battery on wheels). Hopefully the way it's designed allows for NG Focus, Escape, C-Max top hats to share the platform. Along with NG MKZ, Fusion/Mondeo and New Lincoln sedan and coupe.

100 kWh.....same as the biggest Tesla battery pack, but small enough to fit under a compact car. I also wonder if Ford will install the same pack, but offer more power/range/upgrades at additional cost via software updates. 'software limited battery packs'.
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Ford Mustang Hybrid due in 2020, and it may be powerful

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We all knew this day was coming, but it's just something an auto enthusiast can't prepare for. A Ford Motor Company [NYSE:F] Mustang Hybrid is happening, and it will be here in just a handful of years.

To be specific, 2020 is when the Mustang will add a hybrid model. Details are slim, but Ford confirmed it's happening. Claims are it will have the power of a V-8 with even greater low-end torque.

Naturally, when enthusiasts think hybrids they think Toyota Prius, and then they get the shakes. One has to believe Ford isn't willing to risk ruining the heritage it has built with the Mustang nameplate just to increase fuel economy.

Aside from fuel economy, hybrid systems do have at least one performance advantage. An electric motor and battery pack combine to provide instant off-the-line torque. That torque fill could allow Ford to use larger turbos that take longer to spool up. The result would be more power.
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* In addition, Ford announces that its global utility lineup will be the company’s first hybrids powered by EcoBoost® rather than naturally aspirated engines, furthering improving performance and fuel economy.


NG Expedition/Navigator, NG Escape/MKC, NG Explorer/Aviator
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By 2020, next gen EB engines that are uniquely built and optimized for hybrids will be available. Today’s hybrids use existing engines with little more than different cam profiles. We have found many ways to further optimize, especially through reduced friction. All combined, these next hybrids will be much more efficient. This is also why I have been pro hybrid instead of EV. And speaking of EV, I bet this new CUV includes AWD. Something currently lacking.
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