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I've done a bit more reading on this now and I have to say I was wrong. The Michigan news actually has a lot to do with the pro-business Trump policies. Happy to see a positive change for Ford as a business because of them. I'm sorry that I jumped so quickly to assume this was going to be another one of the stories about Trump taking credit for jobs yadda yadda.

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Although...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/03/ford-...not-trump.html

Now I'm confused... WHO CARES, jobs in Michigan, new products from Ford! Cheers!!

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I've read speculation elsewhere that the two police hybrid vehicles will be Explorer and Expedition. I really expect Ford to discontinue the Taurus and C-Max in North America.

Ford must expect sedan sales to decline for both Focus and Fusion to fit at Hermosillo. I believe jpd80 said elsewhere that the next Focus and Fiesta will share a platform that will not be shared with the Escape, but I wonder if the next North American Focus sedan and Fusion will share a platform, just as the Civic and next generation Accord will.
NG Explorer Hybrid and NG Expedition Hybrid do make sense for new police pursuit vehicles.

Taurus production is pushed out until 2023 from 2017, which is a whole new 6 year product lifecycle. That's why I expect the new Taurus to make it to NA as a MY2018 Taurus. The only other option is for Ford to continue to make the same outdated Taurus for 7 more years....which will never happen.

Hermosillo is working double shifts, 6 days a week to keep up with current Fusion/MKZ production. Focus Sedan, Focus Hatch, Focus ST, C-Max and the new Lincoln C-Segment vehicle will require extensive expansion investment. In the US alone, Fusion sales are down about 20k units to 246k as of Nov. MKZ are up at 28k. With all Fusion/MKZ production for US and Canada shifted to Hermosillo, their next option is to go three shifts just to keep up.

NG Fiesta is already set on it's new modified/upgraded b-Segment platform(not shared with c-segment Focus/Escape), with production for NA moving to Thailand.

Civic and NG Accord will share a heavily modified 'version' of the same platform, but not the same platform. Meaning they can't travel down the same production line.
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I think the reason that there is no Lincoln news mentioned in the release is that Ford is making a concerted effort to separate Lincoln and Ford as much as possible, as they did with removing the Ecoboost branding from vehicles, and that doesn't mean that Lincoln won't be receiving any of the hybrid tech. It's just further distancing the two brands in consumers and the media point of view.

With D6 coming on board with the ability to accept v8 engines (I think some forget that no Lincoln vehicle sans the Navi can even fit a V8), and the new hybrid tech, phase two for Lincoln should be exciting.
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Hmmm, let me think.....a Prius or a Mustang hybrid.
Let me think about that for a minute.

Ok, I'm done.
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Just thought of something. Typically with a Hybrid trunk space is used up for the batteries however Ford has been pretty cleaver about the packaging like with the current Fusion and MKZ. Wonder if there will still be enough room for a drop top.

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I'm frankly more interested in the direction of the new Focus than any of these electric cars. I hope for a roomier, more simply styled car than the current model with a regular automatic transmission. If it were up to me, I would built the sedan in Mexico and import the hatchbacks from Germany.
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NG Explorer Hybrid and NG Expedition Hybrid do make sense for new police pursuit vehicles...
with the aluminum ExpedNavi it does *sound* good for electrolisis
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just got a feeling the 2nd LeO vehicle will be closer to a Model-E
( which iir(ead)c is now going to be a Cuv )

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with the aluminum ExpedNavi it does *sound* good for electrolisis
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just got a feeling the 2nd LeO vehicle will be closer to a Model-E
( which iir(ead)c is now going to be a Cuv )
A pursuit rated new Taurus would be more on par with the current Charger size wise, and rear/perp seating.

Then again there is the Mustang. Several countries including the UK are testing, have tested and are using the stock car with additions as a high speed pursuit vehicle. The Mustang failed the Australian police dept. test because of an overheating transmission. Which would be resolved with a new duty designed unit for 2018.

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The extra stuff in the USA was going to happen anyway aka electrification etc, besides the planned Model E.

The Focus was and is still moving to Mexico.
Ford walks away from the new plant and its incentives from the Mexican government - Among the benefits granted to Ford was 280 hectares, the ten-year waiver of payroll tax, ten years of property tax, as well as facilitating everything related to construction licenses.

As I asked before "Focus & Fusion coming from the Hermosillo Mx. plant to the USA won't piss off Trump?"

That is the elephant in Trumps room right? USA cars being built in Mexico and coming across the border tax free to be sold in USA?

Why is Fields making an issue of him and Bill Ford calling the President elect and Vice President elect to tell them the news?
The Focus was going to San Luis PotosŪ, Mexico - Today that plant officially became vaporware, now Focus goes to either Hermosillo or CuautitlŠn, Ford will build whatever else they have room to build, but what they can't comes back to the US.

Flat Rock is getting major investment and growing, the shift in growth is towards US, not Mexico.


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