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With the federal tax credit for electric vehicle purchases set to wind down, California is weighing a new rebate program that would continue to promote the purchase of zero-emissions vehicles.

The plan, known as the California Electric Vehicle Initiative, is intended to stave off the so-called "valley of death." Lawmaker in California are concerned that EV sales might plummet once there is less of a financial incentive to purchase them.
In order to spur EV sales, the bill outlines a rebate plan that would eliminate the need to buyers to file for a tax credit, as is common practice today. Instead, buyers would get cash back at the time of their purchases. The bill also calls for income-based credits, which would eliminate excessive subsidies for wealthy buyers.

Rebates would be lowered over time as EV becomes more popular. Once electrics move to the mainstream, the program would be eliminated. An exact timeframe has not been attached to the bill, but EVs are expected to reach price parity with internal combustion engine cars sometime around 2026. California is proposing to fund the program with $3 billion.

California governor Jerry Brown has outlined a plan to have 1.5 million electric vehicles on the state's roads by 2025. The new bill could be a crucial tool in helping California reach that goal.
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Re: California is hoping to boost EV sales with a new rebate program

I still believe that price has little to do with single digit sales percentages of EV, but rather, all the limitations.

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I still believe that price has little to do with single digit sales percentages of EV, but rather, all the limitations.
The biggest limitation with EVs so far is the product limitation. Just not enough options. Early adopters willing to compromise buying 100k annually, but it's with the 200+ mile EVs with attractive designs, Model 3, 3-Series EV, etc that the EV will appeal to more commuter car consumers.

But just comparing sales across segments, the Bolt is outselling the Continental. Different segments, but disproves the idea that the perceived limitations of an EV is what keeps it from selling to its target consumers. I think as more EVs are offered to meet the needs of the specific segments, more sales will occur naturally.

Just thinking about the technology and EVs, imagine on a 98 degree day with the car burning up in the sun, as you begin to head toward your EV, it knows based on your habits that you are heading to the car, so it turns on the electric air conditioning to cool the cabin before you get in. No need to start the car, but using something like location services so your car knows where you are.
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The biggest limitation with EVs so far is the product limitation. Just not enough options. Early adopters willing to compromise buying 100k annually, but it's with the 200+ mile EVs with attractive designs, Model 3, 3-Series EV, etc that the EV will appeal to more commuter car consumers.

But just comparing sales across segments, the Bolt is outselling the Continental. Different segments, but disproves the idea that the perceived limitations of an EV is what keeps it from selling to its target consumers. I think as more EVs are offered to meet the needs of the specific segments, more sales will occur naturally.

Just thinking about the technology and EVs, imagine on a 98 degree day with the car burning up in the sun, as you begin to head toward your EV, it knows based on your habits that you are heading to the car, so it turns on the electric air conditioning to cool the cabin before you get in. No need to start the car, but using something like location services so your car knows where you are.
A better comparison would be every single EV that GM sells against every single ICE car they sell. No comparison.

As for cooling your car in advance, I doubt anybody would bother with that, as it drains your battery out on a hot day and drastically limits your range, hence yet another limitation. Something that does not happen if I use my phone app to start my car on a hot, cold or any lazy day.

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