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The Arrogance in my mind is to A)state we are good (which BTW Ford has never been known for making amazing transmissions) B) because we are soo good, we have no need to try something new c) The powershift is a step transmission.


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He merely stated that Ford is "good" at step, relative to CVT.
That has nothing to do with arrogance.

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CVTs have a significant impact on fuel efficiency but it's not a transmission that fits as many applications as Ford needs. Ford is primarily a Truck company as the interview fully demonstrated. They really approach everything from that angle and that represents their core competency and transmission design definitely is not one of them unless it's truck related.
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CVTs have a significant impact on fuel efficiency but it's not a transmission that fits as many applications as Ford needs. Ford is primarily a Truck company as the interview fully demonstrated. They really approach everything from that angle and that represents their core competency and transmission design definitely is not one of them unless it's truck related.

Is ford really a truck company? When the majority of its volume is still Transverse FWD vehicles, with < 220ft/lbs of torque?

I am in the market for a premium compact car with an Independent Rear suspension.
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He merely stated that Ford is "good" at step, relative to CVT.
That has nothing to do with arrogance.
I'm curious to know how you get a CVT to work with high torque Ecoboost engines...
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Ford's hybrid and Energi vehicles use a eCVT transmission.
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Ford's hybrid and Energi vehicles use a eCVT transmission.
yeahBUT
I've read that e-CVTs are fundamentally different from ordinary CVTs...

...dunno if that's true nor what the diffs are...
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Is ford really a truck company? When the majority of its volume is still Transverse FWD vehicles, with < 220ft/lbs of torque?
About 60% of Ford's US sales are F-Series and Transit and it makes up the most significant balance of their revenue and profits. That excludes the Expedition (or Mustang which shares drivetrain tech) and soon the Bronco and Ranger. And with Ford car sales evaporating and Crossover sales plateauing, they should be able to move over to 70% within the next 4-5 years.
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Have I requested the 2.0 Twin Turbo Inline 6 lately? No? Ford, please attach two 1.0EB engines inline and put them in a new, small RWD sports car!

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Have I requested the 2.0 Twin Turbo Inline 6 lately? No? Ford, please attach two 1.0EB engines inline and put them in a new, small RWD sports car!

Thank you,

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I like this idea.
An I6 that is downsized and boosted and high tech.
What's not to love. Smaller bore means total length should not be too bad.
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yeahBUT
I've read that e-CVTs are fundamentally different from ordinary CVTs...

...dunno if that's true nor what the diffs are...
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The eCVT uses a plantetary drive to transfer power form the engine to the wheels
and is counterbalanced by an electric motor controlling the speed and direction
of the planetary gears and the output gear ratio to create the VCT effect.

If you could get the power usage of that small electric motor under control,
it may be a way of eliminating the need for 6, 8, 9 and t10-speed autos.

https://priuschat.com/threads/toyota...ission.127864/

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