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I just realized that this car exactly describes mine:

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2019 Ford Fusion Sport Gets New Content And...
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- Sam McEachern - May 31, 2018

The 2019 Ford Fusion lineup has been detailed today, with the range-topping Fusion Sport receiving a ton of new content and a huge $6,190 price hike.

Ford has decided to revise the entire Fusion lineup for the 2019 model year. The range starts with the base-spec Fusion S, which remains mostly unchanged, apart from the addition of standard Ford Co-Pilot360 Protect. The suite of semi-autonomous driver assist technologies is now standard on all Fusion models, bringing with it automatic emergency braking, pre-collision assist with pedestrian detection, blind spot monitoring, cross-traffic alert, automatic high-beams and rain-sensing wipers.

Next in line is the Fusion SE, which receives Ford’s 1.5-liter turbocharged EcoBoost engine. The mid-range model also gets an 8-inch LCD touch screen, SYNC Connect with Wi-Fi hotspot and dual-zone electronic automatic temperature control, heated seats and heated mirrors. The Fusion SE Hybrid offers the same content but taps a hybrid system with a 2.0-liter Atkinson cycle engine in place of the 1.5-liter EcoBoost.

The Fusion SEL replaces the outgoing SE Luxury Package model and features a 10-way power driver’s seat, heated front seats, an auto dimming rearview mirror, remote start, a leather wrapped wheel and LED headlamps. Fusion SEL Hybrid models also feature multimedia voice-activation and SiriusXM Traffic and Travel Link.

The Fusion Titanium returns for 2019, adding a standard heated steering wheel, heated and cooled front seats, 19-inch wheels, navigation, a moonroof and adaptive cruise control with stop and go.

The Fusion Energi has also received a 25 mile increase in pure electric driving range and also gets standard rain-sensing wipers, adaptive cruise, voice-activated navigation and SiriusXM Traffic and Travel Link. Rounding out the range is the 325 hp Fusion V6 Sport, which has received all of the equipment offered in the Fusion Titanium as well as the aforementioned Ford Co-Pilot360 system.

The Fusion S will now start at $23,735, while the Fusion SE will start at $25,015. Fusion Hybrid models will be priced from $28,450, while the Energi Plug-In variant has been priced from $37,490.The Fusion Titanium will cost $35,235, a significant increase of $3,870, while the Fusion Sport will run buyers $40,910 – an increase of $6,190. It should be noted that the Fusion Sport now offers standard equipment that would have previously pushed the price beyond $43,000, however.

The 2019 Fusion will land on Ford lots this summer.

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"...Shoppers not looking for the latest & greatest may want to consider a 2018 model. Here in Los Angeles, the 2018 Fusion Hybrid is eligible for 0% financing for 72 months plus $3,000 cash, making it one of the best deals on a hybrid."
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"The Fusion Energi has also received a 25 mile increase in pure electric driving range......"

Well that's not true. There was a 4 mile increase, from 21 miles to 25 miles.
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With all the beautiful sedans out there, I think for makes their sedans unnecessarily less attractive, in an effort to push consumers into a more expensive, higher margin crossover/suv. The New Focus Sedan should have looked much better than it does.

BTW the Honda Civic is the best selling compact car in NA, and the sedan is by far the higher volume model. And Ford things consumers don't want to buy 'cars'.
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Re: Fusion/Fiesta/Taurus Officially Cancelled

imho, making the worst aNNouncemess in business history was the easy part for FoMoCo...

Ford's plan without sedans: 9 things to know
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| Mark Phelan | June 1, 2018 | Updated

...Now comes the tough part: Creating new SUV-type vehicles that will outperform the Taurus, Fusion, Focus and Fiesta in sales, profits and production.

Nearly every automaker faces this challenge as the market moves toward SUVs, but none more immediately than Ford, which allowed its car lineup to become the oldest in the industry at the same time buyers’ interest in sedans flagged.

“This is a step in the automobile’s evolution,” design consultant and former GM design chief Ed Welburn said. “Coupes were the rage for decades. That transitioned to sedans and now crossovers.” Many industry insiders use the term “crossover” for SUVs not engineered for off-road use or heavy towing.

The race is on to design and develop the vehicles that replace Ford’s plodding sedans. Even inside the company, few people know what’s next.

If you think the answer is more Expeditions, Explorers and Escapes, you’re wrong. The new vehicles must look and feel significantly different from what Ford sells today.

“Ford, more than any other brand, is a truck brand — a pickup truck brand,” said Autotrader senior analyst Michelle Krebs.

“Consumers don’t think of Ford as an SUV brand much more than they think of it as a car brand. Ford car owners, after they have shopped Ford cars, go to the Honda CR-V before they look at Ford utilities. If Ford is to move its current car buyers to its SUVs or something else, it has some work to do.”

Here’s what we know about Ford’s plan:
Ford divides its future SUVs into two types: “urban utilities” that will never go off-road, and more rugged SUVs like the upcoming Bronco that can hit the trail and compete with brands including Jeep and Land Rover.
Ford will replace its sedans with vehicles that are taller, more upright and have more ground clearance. Think models like the Kia Soul, Honda Element and Subaru Outback.
Ford is developing an offroad SUV smaller than the Bronco.
The Chinese-made Focus Active will have Focus looks, but more ground clearance, a higher roof and SUV-style profile when it goes on sale in mid-2019.
Ford will use lightweight materials, hybrids and electric vehicles to boost fuel economy
Ford will have the same number of models in 2020 as today. In addition to the Bronco and smaller offroad SUV, that suggests one or two more SUVs slotting into the space the Fusion and Taurus occupy.
The subcompact Ecosport will anchor the bottom of the lineup until Ford develops a new vehicle to compete with the Honda HR-V, Nissan Rogue Sport and Chevrolet Trax.
The Taurus, Fusion and Fiesta accounted for 296,748 sales in 2017. To call the new strategy a success, Ford should sell at least that many of the new vehicles — at higher prices than its cars get today.
Ford expects SUVs to account for 50% of North American vehicle sales by 2020. With pickups and vans around 20%, that leaves sedans, coupes, convertibles and sports cars to fight over just 30% of the market, down from about half a few years ago.

“Over the history of the automobile, designers have made every effort to make cars longer and lower, in particular during the 1950s and '60s,” Welburn said. “Today’s SUVs and crossovers are simply a return to the size and proportion of the average automobile of the 1930s and '40s. They all were very upright and had a commanding view of the road.”

Fiat Chrysler crossed this bridge two years ago when CEO Sergio Marchionne said the company would stop building the midsize Chrysler 200 and compact Dodge Dart sedans to concentrate on pickups and SUVs.

FCA hasn’t looked back, but it had two advantages Ford lacks: The Jeep brand’s strong image and the ability to give high-volume vehicles luxurious interiors, as demonstrated by the Ram pickup.

“Ford’s going to have to come up with some really exciting ways to crease their sheet metal to make the new SUVs look different and exciting,” said Joe Phillippi, principal of analyst Autotrends.

Appealing interiors and simple controls for entertainment systems and smartphones will also be important, Phillippi added.

“The genius is the person who figures out what’s next,” Welburn said. “SUVs will evolve. Some will be sportier. Others will be lower and easier for the aging and people with disabilities to get in and out.”

At the same time, it’s risky to stretch the envelope too far, product development consultant Eric Noble of the Carlab said.

“The SUV formula has been around for 100 years because it works: a command seating position, lots of passenger and cargo space. If you cross the line and make the vehicle too round, you reach a point where the utility is gone. That’s when you lose the customer.

“Ford needs to replace 300,000 sales a year. They’re not going to do that with nichey, car-like SUVs.”

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The Germans have already answered the question to sedan replacement (I didn't even include the Mercedes models). Good luck with the Kia Soul thing, Though I'm pretty sure the Honda Element competitor won't work out for you.

If management at Ford were smart, they would be planning 6 GT, A5 SB, A7, X4 and X6 competitors.


Like I said, though the market is moving to SUVs and crossovers, these types of vehicles are selling really well because they are transition vehicles.

To be honest, I don't think even Ford knows what Ford wants. I think they're as confused as we are.
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The Germans have already answered the question to sedan replacement (I didn't even include the Mercedes models). Good luck with the Kia Soul thing, Though I'm pretty sure the Honda Element competitor won't work out for you.

If management at Ford were smart, they would be planning 6 GT, A5 SB, A7, X4 and X6 competitors.


Like I said, though the market is moving to SUVs and crossovers, these types of vehicles are selling really well because they are transition vehicles.

To be honest, I don't think even Ford knows what Ford wants. I think they're as confused as we are.
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I can imagine a Lincoln A7 being very beautiful, especially with their new design language.
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imho, making the worst aNNouncemess in business history was the easy part for FoMoCo...

Ford's plan without sedans: 9 things to know
Detroit Free Press
| Mark Phelan | June 1, 2018 | Updated

...Now comes the tough part: Creating new SUV-type vehicles that will outperform the Taurus, Fusion, Focus and Fiesta in sales, profits and production.

Nearly every automaker faces this challenge as the market moves toward SUVs, but none more immediately than Ford, which allowed its car lineup to become the oldest in the industry at the same time buyers’ interest in sedans flagged.

“This is a step in the automobile’s evolution,” design consultant and former GM design chief Ed Welburn said. “Coupes were the rage for decades. That transitioned to sedans and now crossovers.” Many industry insiders use the term “crossover” for SUVs not engineered for off-road use or heavy towing.

The race is on to design and develop the vehicles that replace Ford’s plodding sedans. Even inside the company, few people know what’s next.

If you think the answer is more Expeditions, Explorers and Escapes, you’re wrong. The new vehicles must look and feel significantly different from what Ford sells today.

“Ford, more than any other brand, is a truck brand — a pickup truck brand,” said Autotrader senior analyst Michelle Krebs.

“Consumers don’t think of Ford as an SUV brand much more than they think of it as a car brand. Ford car owners, after they have shopped Ford cars, go to the Honda CR-V before they look at Ford utilities. If Ford is to move its current car buyers to its SUVs or something else, it has some work to do.”

Here’s what we know about Ford’s plan:
Ford divides its future SUVs into two types: “urban utilities” that will never go off-road, and more rugged SUVs like the upcoming Bronco that can hit the trail and compete with brands including Jeep and Land Rover.
Ford will replace its sedans with vehicles that are taller, more upright and have more ground clearance. Think models like the Kia Soul, Honda Element and Subaru Outback.
Ford is developing an offroad SUV smaller than the Bronco.
The Chinese-made Focus Active will have Focus looks, but more ground clearance, a higher roof and SUV-style profile when it goes on sale in mid-2019.
Ford will use lightweight materials, hybrids and electric vehicles to boost fuel economy
Ford will have the same number of models in 2020 as today. In addition to the Bronco and smaller offroad SUV, that suggests one or two more SUVs slotting into the space the Fusion and Taurus occupy.
The subcompact Ecosport will anchor the bottom of the lineup until Ford develops a new vehicle to compete with the Honda HR-V, Nissan Rogue Sport and Chevrolet Trax.
The Taurus, Fusion and Fiesta accounted for 296,748 sales in 2017. To call the new strategy a success, Ford should sell at least that many of the new vehicles — at higher prices than its cars get today.
Ford expects SUVs to account for 50% of North American vehicle sales by 2020. With pickups and vans around 20%, that leaves sedans, coupes, convertibles and sports cars to fight over just 30% of the market, down from about half a few years ago.

“Over the history of the automobile, designers have made every effort to make cars longer and lower, in particular during the 1950s and '60s,” Welburn said. “Today’s SUVs and crossovers are simply a return to the size and proportion of the average automobile of the 1930s and '40s. They all were very upright and had a commanding view of the road.”

Fiat Chrysler crossed this bridge two years ago when CEO Sergio Marchionne said the company would stop building the midsize Chrysler 200 and compact Dodge Dart sedans to concentrate on pickups and SUVs.

FCA hasn’t looked back, but it had two advantages Ford lacks: The Jeep brand’s strong image and the ability to give high-volume vehicles luxurious interiors, as demonstrated by the Ram pickup.

“Ford’s going to have to come up with some really exciting ways to crease their sheet metal to make the new SUVs look different and exciting,” said Joe Phillippi, principal of analyst Autotrends.

Appealing interiors and simple controls for entertainment systems and smartphones will also be important, Phillippi added.

“The genius is the person who figures out what’s next,” Welburn said. “SUVs will evolve. Some will be sportier. Others will be lower and easier for the aging and people with disabilities to get in and out.”

At the same time, it’s risky to stretch the envelope too far, product development consultant Eric Noble of the Carlab said.

“The SUV formula has been around for 100 years because it works: a command seating position, lots of passenger and cargo space. If you cross the line and make the vehicle too round, you reach a point where the utility is gone. That’s when you lose the customer.

“Ford needs to replace 300,000 sales a year. They’re not going to do that with nichey, car-like SUVs.”

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Some notes about this:

1- Ford is not planning something more than 3 vehicles to replace the Fiesta/Fusion/Taurus dead triplet: Bronco, baby Bronco and Mach1. That is all. Nothing new. A new Escape, a new Explorer to replace the current versions. And nothing to replace the almost dead Flex and C-Max. So, Ford will have less models in the dealers by 2020.

2- The next Focus active will be exactly like the hatchback model, but 1 inch higher suspension and some black cladding around the body. Is false that it will have “rise roof” or “crossover profile”

3- “Ford will replace its sedans will vehicles taller...”. False. Ford will not replace the sedans. Not the Fusion, not the Taurus, not the Fiesta. There are not a single new that talk about this. Ford will produce some new vehicles (Bronco, baby Bronco and Mach1) that are not replacing any other vehicle in the current line up.

4- “The today SUVs and Crossovers are the return of the size and profile of the cars from the 30s and 40s...”. Bingo! For the first time someone make a comment that is perfectly accurate. Take a 1940 Ford “sedan” and compare the profile , the size and dimensions with the current Explorer. You will be surprised with the results...

5- “Ford is going to have to come up with some excited way to crease their sheet metal to make the new SUVs different...” Ford needs to explore other forms, like the “coupe/crossover” and high roof wagons to make more different and appealing vehicles to attract sedans buyers.

6- “Ford needs to replace 300000 sales a year...”. And I say: they could not do it.
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