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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 05-17-2018, 11:23 AM Thread Starter
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Bill Ford Jr. Talks AI in PBS Special

Incredible thing to watch in it's entirety, or just go to ~42min mark to listen to Bill.

And do pay attention to AI that Amazon is using in it's huge facilities. Did not know any of this. Amazing.

https://www.pbs.org/video/nova-wonde...-brain-j53aqg/
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Re: Bill Ford Jr. Talks AI in PBS Special

Here is just the Amazon robot segment.

https://www.pbs.org/video/meet-robots-amazon-wnnmy7/
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Re: Bill Ford Jr. Talks AI in PBS Special

^ saw that last night, TY for posting it, Wings

VERY interesting & imho/afaik much more FACTUAL than most ... with the EXception
of
not sledgehammering the difference between:
1- 'NeuralNetwork' = accurate if jargon-y
2- deep''Learning'' = marketing term/misleading
3- '''ArtificialIntelligence''' = out right LIE
the part of the explanation where multiple researchers were saying how FAR they are from REAL a.i.,
and the best they can do now is maybe = a 3 [THREE]-year old >> driving those autonoY vehicles...
...Now...like in Arizona!!

I wonder if anyone felt that,
who hasn't had Some/little ComputerScience experience with what I'm just starting to call: T.A.I.
TOWARDS.Artificial.Intelligence
like TowardsPERFECTION & perfection BY DEFINITION is IMpossible/sloppy-speak/not-real
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Re: Bill Ford Jr. Talks AI in PBS Special

it^ is being reshown right now on my local PBS



maybe I can realtime some corrections...
-- intelligence is assumed to be doing things that APPEAR intelligent
-- visual processing is a primary tool in this deception/pretense
-- the error-rate break-thru [Geoffrey Hinton] for visual-labeling using neural networking [mislabeled "deep learning"] : a bruteforce approach to quantify the validity of labels, ie identification
-- when one hears "thousands/millions/billions" of attempts; That IS bruteforce ... Not 'smartness'
-- it has taken 60 Years of attempts to get to the previously^mentioned 3 year old level**
-- contra [Bill Ford]/Y-cars; to incentivize 'learning',
it might be helpful to put vials of nitro-glycerine on cars' bumpers,
to simulate human death-risk
-- re: [Christof Koch], our systems & laws will Not be ready, there are & will be No meaningful protections ... until too late

** to get to an 18 y.o. driver's level, we might forecast 18-3years *times* 60 = 900years
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Re: Bill Ford Jr. Talks AI in PBS Special

Coming from a psychology/neuroscience background, it is amazing how 'scientist' make grandiose claims about what science 'knows' about the human brain, when over 90% of what science thinks we know is based just on what science has been able to build tools to measure and then 'conclude' based on correlations and 'available' data. Essentially lots of guess work that becomes 'known' and then facts that never were.

However, AI has a bright future, but science not understanding even what the energy is that keeps living beings alive, and the lack of that energy that indicates death, or how that energy 'flow' is part of our thoughts, AI will simply equal what we know about the physical world only learning using cause and effect methodology.

One aspect of AI with self driving cars that they did not mention is that the greatest challenge in the US is the inconsistency of signage from state to state that's not the case in most other countries. Which would indicate to move along even commercial self driving cars, consistency in signage rules need to be put into place to help the progression along.
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