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Re: EcoBoost predictions

^ EcoBoost is DirectInjection + Turbo charging + Ford's (super secret sauce) software.
Hybrids have electric motors & batteries in addition to some other kind of power (like gas/petrol).
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for the following article,
I've read that a CGI engine block can be lighter than an aluminum one.



Ford Ecoboost engine set for CGI block? - AutoIndustryNewsletter
Sunday, 4 November 2012


Speculation amongst some observers suggests there would be no surprise if the “sensational” engine using compacted graphite iron (CGI) block, due to bow in the 2013/2014 time frame (see last post), comes from Ford Motor Company; the engine lying within the company’s Ecoboost family...

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THANKS to JPD...

Advanced Gasoline Turbocharged Direct
Injection (GTDI) Engine Development
- pdf Link 2.8mb

Corey E. Weaver
Ford Research and Advanced Engineering
05/18/2012
Project ID: ACE065
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and...
Electric tiVCT page 18

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Re: EcoBoost predictions

came across something interesing imho in an article from last spring...

Downspeeding, stratified charge will be keys to Ford’s next-gen EcoBoost - SAE.org
24-Apr-2012 17:19 GMT
Lindsay Brooke


...Eric Curtis, Technical Leader and Manager of Engine and Powertrain Systems,...said Ford engineers have established an optimum bore/stroke ratio of 0.8 for its GTDI engines (compared with an average 1.2 for its naturally aspirated engines) in the quest to improve thermal efficiency. He said a 500- to 600-cm3 cylinder is Ford’s “sweet spot” thus far in production GTDI engines, avoiding the broad bores that are prone to combustion knock...

plenty MORE... that I don't understand

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what I find interesting & might understand is
it sounds like future EB's will possibly be

v8's = 4.0 to 4.8
v6's = 3.0 to 3.6
4cyls = 2.0 to 2.4
and
1.5 to 1.8 = 3cyls
adding to the idea that the new "1.5" won't be a 4cyl

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made a revised chart (beware typos)


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Whilst Ford does have their own proprietary control software the notion that this in, and of itself makes Ecoboost engines the best of direct injection forced induction engines is at best erroneous. I do wonder how specific outputs approaching or exceeding 140 hp/ liter will effect long term reliability however.


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I do wonder how specific outputs approaching or exceeding 140 hp/ liter will effect long term reliability however.
With modern materials and engineering I don't see an issue. When you consider how much power tuners eek out of older small displacement engines, then consider that the vast majority of new cars are never driven in their upper power ranges much I think they'll be fine. My biggest concern is more electric/electronic, as in trying to troubleshoot modern tech ladden cars when they do have an issue.
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Re: EcoBoost predictions

fwiw...

2015 Ford Mustang To Get Four-Cylinder Engine, But for Europe Only - Edmunds
Published: 03/06/2013 - by Richard Bremner

Just the Facts:
• The 2015 Ford Mustang is slated to get a fuel-efficient 2.3-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine, but only for European editions.
• The engine is based on the turbocharged 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine featured in the 2013 Ford Focus ST.
Engine output is likely to rise from 252 horsepower to 300 hp in 2.3-liter form, according to company insiders.

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at 140hp per liter, the 2.3EB should produce 322hp!!

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2015 Ford Mustang will get 2.3-liter EcoBoost in U.S. - Road and Track
By Alex Nunez March 8, 2013


...Road & Track has confirmed that we will indeed get the 2.3-liter turbo four here in the U.S. market. Furthermore, don't bet on it being the base engine, either...

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what about 1.5 EB that they announced for the new mondeo ?

An email answer from a FORD official
here's the 1.5EB3's first official announcement

1.5EB = 132kW = 177hp = only 118hp-per-liter
BUT
if we increase that by 20%, JUST LIKE the 2.0EB came out with a 2nd higher power version in Europe, which became the Only version for the U.S.;
we come out at just OVER the expected 140-per-liter

so imho it's safe to look for that 210hp!

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