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Re: Fomoco China 2017: Lincoln UP 73%, YTD +100%...

just stumbled upon this - UNverified - & no idea what it even means re: overall Buick-China sales...

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Re: Fomoco China 2017: Lincoln UP 73%, YTD +100%...

http://shareholder.ford.com/~/media/...les-August.pdf

I don't remember ever seeing China August sales numbers....
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I don't remember ever seeing China August sales numbers....
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I don't remember ever seeing China August sales numbers....
Looking at the numbers, it's interesting that with the consistent all-or-nothing message being that SUVs and CUVs are HOT everywhere on the planet, the EcoSport, Escape, Edge and Explorer in China are all down by 27%, 22%, 3% and 2% respectively. While cars are down also, but by a much smaller margin.

And don't let the number of 'news' publications sway you because as we know, they tend to report based on each other and not actually research and report.

Following the money trail, we can see why the auto industry would want consumers to switch from a sedan to a cuv, just look at the premium for the cuv...$13k Fiesta into a $20k Ecosport is a $7k gain. $17k Focus to $24k Escape is another $7k gain, $22k Fusion to $29k Edge is another $7k gain.....notice the pattern?

Could it be that all the hype about the desire for more expensive CUVs was just industry marketing try to get more consumers to 'want' and buy a higher margin CUV instead of the lower margin sedan? And looking at China sales, it could indicate that the bottom is already falling out of that plan, at least in China?

Recent August sales for the US between the car and more expensive cuv seems to be balancing out with Focus up 9.6%, Escape down -15.8% and Fusion down -8.8%, Edge down -3.3%. Which indicates that consumers are not running from cars to cuvs, but cuv sales are blending with sedan sales, as consumers go from car to cuv and back to more cost-effective cars again.

I am sure the industry is also watching the sales numbers and trends, which means we should see a flood of sedans coming over the next few years without the $7k CUV premium.
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Re: Fomoco China 2017: Lincoln UP 73%, YTD +100%...

^^ TY Andrew!! s

will you work this into your Lux Sales Thread?
Think there's some worthwhile analysis to do


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...Following the money trail, we can see why the auto industry would want consumers to switch from a sedan to a cuv, just look at the premium for the cuv...$13k Fiesta into a $20k Ecosport is a $7k gain. $17k Focus to $24k Escape is another $7k gain, $22k Fusion to $29k Edge is another $7k gain.....notice the pattern?...


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...Could it be that all the hype about the desire for more expensive CUVs was just industry marketing try to get more consumers to 'want' and buy a higher margin CUV instead of the lower margin sedan? And looking at China sales, it could indicate that the bottom is already falling out of that plan, at least in China?...
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maybe that the suits haven't figured out what "sheeple" is in Chinese yet Nor how to TRAIN them!!
I bet they're not as easy to hoodwink as us 'Mercuns

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...I am sure the industry is also watching the sales numbers and trends, which means we should see a flood of sedans coming over the next few years without the $7k CUV premium.
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Ford's struggles in China continue as November sales drop 8 percent
Ford plans big push to revive its fortunes in the world's biggest car market
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- Dec 11th 2017 - Reporting By Norihiko Shirouzu & VIDEO


Ford's sales in China fell 8 percent in November from a year ago, following a 5 percent decline in October, the U.S. automaker said on Monday.

The firm's sales in the first 11 months of the year totaled 1.06 million vehicles, down 6 percent from the same period a year ago.

Ford's China sales growth has lagged behind rivals in the world's top auto market this year, with the carmaker now looking to overhaul its strategy to revive growth in China under new chief executive Jim Hackett.

Among other moves, the review of its China operations will likely see Ford focus on segments such as electric cars and electric commercial vans, with China encouraging to help clean up its polluted and congested city centers.

Ford is looking to roll out more new-energy vehicles for China and is planning to experiment with a more direct selling approach in a partnership with Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba Group Holding Ltd.

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Media.Ford.com | Dec 5, 2017 | SHANGHAI
Ford Intensifies China Growth Plan: More Smart Vehicles, Expanded Local Production, Leaner Business Structure


• Ford is introducing more than 50 new vehicles in China by 2025, including eight all-new SUVs and at least 15 electrified vehicles from Ford and Lincoln; in addition, the new Zotye-Ford JV will launch an all-new range of affordable all-electric vehicles
• The company plans to locally assemble five more vehicles in China for Chinese customers starting in 2019, including a Lincoln premium SUV and the company’s first global all-electric small SUV; also rapidly increasing engineering and R&D capability in China to support the aggressive growth plan
• All new vehicles in China to be internet-connected by end 2019. Ford continues working with Baidu on autonomous vehicle development
• New single distribution services division planned to launch next year, designed to deliver an enhanced experience for customers and improved brand consistency while reducing costs

SHANGHAI, Dec. 5, 2017 – Building on a decade of significant investments and growth, Ford today outlined the next phase of its China expansion strategy, focused on SUVs, electric and connected vehicles, a streamlined business structure and closer connections to Chinese customers.

Executive Chairman Bill Ford and CEO Jim Hackett shared the vision today while in China this week to meet with employees, customers, dealers and government officials.

“China is not only the largest car market in the world, it’s also at the heart of electric vehicle and SUV growth and the mobility movement,” said Bill Ford. “The progress we have achieved in China is just the start. We now have a chance to expand our presence in China and deliver even more for customers, our partners and society.”

Added Hackett: “Ford’s aspiration is to become the world’s most trusted mobility company, designing smart vehicles for a smart world. We are very excited to see this vision come to life in China.”

To enable future growth in China, Ford will contain structural cost in the region throughout 2018, aiming to generate greater efficiencies, become more operationally fit and deliver additional value to shareholders.

Even as the team works to streamline, Ford plans to grow its China revenue by 50 percent by 2025 versus 2017 and is focusing its business expansion on three areas: even more smart, connected vehicles; closer connections to Chinese customers, and a streamlined business structure.

Even More Smart, Connected Vehicles: The company plans to offer more than 50 new Ford and Lincoln vehicles in China by 2025.

The expanded product portfolio will reflect an even stronger emphasis on SUVs – with eight all-new utilities, along with more electric vehicles.

The company will launch at least 15 new electrified vehicles from Ford and Lincoln. And the new Zotye-Ford joint venture will deliver a separate range of affordable all-electric under a new brand, pending regulatory approvals.

“From luxury Lincolns, to Ford cars and SUVs, to an all-new electric vehicle brand, we will meet the growing desire and need in China for great new energy vehicles,” said Jason Luo, chairman and CEO, Ford China. “Each of them will be safe, efficient, fun to drive and backed by an ecosystem that makes charging, sharing and servicing easy.”

Plus, by the end of 2019, 100 percent of new Ford and Lincoln-badged vehicles in China will be connected through either embedded modems or plug-in devices. Company leaders also are working on broader infrastructure opportunities to improve future mobility experiences.

Ford is one of the founding members of the Board of Baidu’s Project Apollo, building on the agreement signed earlier this year. The Apollo Open Platform accelerates the development, testing and deployment of autonomous vehicles. Ford’s participation supports the company’s robotics and artificial intelligence research efforts and provides an opportunity to contribute to a platform that will be key to developing autonomous vehicles in China.

“We are responding to the rapid pace of change by delivering increased connectivity and working to improve and simplify mobility for everyone,” Hackett said. “This builds on our commitment to deliver smart vehicles for a smart world, helping people around the world move more safely, confidently and freely.”

Closer connections to Chinese customers: In 2019, the company starts producing five additional Ford and Lincoln models in China for Chinese customers, including a new Lincoln premium SUV, and the company’s first global fully electric small SUV.

Producing vehicles locally speeds time to market, while providing greater opportunities to fully leverage the local supply base. It also allows Ford to further tailor vehicles to more closely meet the needs of Chinese customers.

“Some of our most advanced manufacturing and innovation facilities are here in China,” said Peter Fleet, group vice president and president, Ford Asia Pacific. “Producing more vehicles for China locally allows us to improve the benefits for our customers, our partners and our bottom line.”

Ford last month opened the Nanjing Test Center, which furthers product development capability and innovation in China. The test center – which includes close to 80 different types of real road surface conditions, a three-kilometer test track and a sophisticated emissions testing facility, will allow Ford to speed development of new products, services and technologies to meet the unique driving requirements of Chinese customers.

The company also is committed to improving the ownership experience for customers with the launch of Quick Lane, its global fast, high-quality service provider.

The first two outlets open in Nanjing and Chongqing this month, offering routine vehicle maintenance such as oil and filter changes, light repair services including brake repair and tire replacements on all vehicle makes and models. Ford plans to open 100 new outlets next year.

Streamlined Business: Ford is strengthening ties with its joint venture partners Changan and Jiangling in 2018, establishing one distribution services division responsible for the marketing, sales and services associated with all Ford vehicles sold in China.

The new distribution services division will seek to offer a simplified, improved and consistent customer experience for all Ford customers in China.

Lincoln, which has become the fastest-growing luxury brand in China, remains a stand-alone consumer-facing brand and maintains its separate dealer network to offer the brand’s unique “Lincoln Way” one-size-fits-one customer experience.

“Now is the time to deepen the partnerships we have with Changan and Jiangling Group and present one Ford brand in China,” Fleet said. “The new distribution services division will enable us to offer an enhanced experience for our customers and more closely connect with our dealers and the community.

“All of the actions outlined today reflect an unprecedented commitment to focus on the needs of consumers in China through a more fit and streamlined Ford,” he added. “They are proof of our dedication to grow our business in China.”
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Fomoco China 2017...meh, BUT LINCOLN UP +41% Dec / +66% full2017

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LINCOLN CHINA SETS SALES RECORD;
LINCOLN GLOBAL SALES DELIVER BEST PERFORMANCE SINCE 2000


DEARBORN, Mich., Jan. 12, 2018 – With record China sales, The Lincoln Motor Company expanded its global growth in 2017 with 188,383 vehicles sold – a 13 percent gain and its best performance since 2000. In the United States, Lincoln SUV sales continued to increase, while sales in China were up 66 percent year-over-year.

Lincoln SUVs had their best year since 2003 in the United States, with 71,607 vehicles sold in 2017. In addition, the Navigator set the stage for a strong year by selling 1,444 vehicles in December, its first month of sales.

“We’re encouraged by the momentum we are seeing around the world,” said

Kumar Galhotra, president, The Lincoln Motor Company. “The sales growth demonstrates consumers are recognizing the excellent products and services that Lincoln offers.”

In the U.S., Lincoln’s volume leader, the MKX, enjoyed its best year of sales since entering the market in 2007. The Lincoln MKC saw its best year of performance since launching in 2014, with sales up 5.8 percent
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