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I wonder which car this one is?
Could this be the refreshed Ka (Figo/ Ka Plus)?
Yes. That is the new Ka+/Figo facelift

http://indianautosblog.com/2017/08/f...acelift-276609
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Yes. That is the new Ka+/Figo facelift

http://indianautosblog.com/2017/08/f...acelift-276609
Thanks for sharing.
It's interesting to see Ford Australia involved in the refresh. They were originally not part of the development of the current generation Ka/Ka+/Figo.

- http://www.motoring.com.au/spy-pics-...eelong-107503/

In the article I posted at the start of the thread, they said the Figo will be positioned lower to make room for the upcoming B563 subcompact (mid-size in India). Could that mean the Figo could lose the Titanium and "Sports Edition" variants?

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Thanks for sharing.
It's interesting to see Ford Australia involved in the refresh. They were originally not part of the development of the current generation Ka/Ka+/Figo.

- http://www.motoring.com.au/spy-pics-...eelong-107503/

In the article I posted at the start of the thread, they said the Figo will be positioned lower to make room for the upcoming B563 subcompact (mid-size in India). Could that mean the Figo could lose the Titanium and "Sports Edition" variants?
Maybe. Also I think that the Figo might also stay as is and the new model above it may be powered by the 1.0 EcoBoost like in the Fiesta?

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Maybe. Also I think that the Figo might also stay as is and the new model above it may be powered by the 1.0 EcoBoost like in the Fiesta?
One of the engine options on the upcoming B563 small car will most likely be the naturally-aspirated 1.5-liter "Dragon" Inline-3 engine mentioned in the article at the start of the thread. This engine will debut in the 2018 EcoSport for some global markets.

*In the 2018 Brazilian EcoSport, the new 1.5-liter Ti-VCT 3-cylinder engine makes 130CV (128hp) with gasoline and 137CV (135hp) with ethanol.
- https://br.motor1.com/news/174637/fo...udos-e-precos/

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Re: Ford developing a small car (B563) for India & emerging markets

'nother article / 'nother car? / but I don't trust the rendering...

SCOOP! Ford developing premium hatch to take on i20 and Baleno
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Ford’s B563 platform for India will be the base for a new hatchback and mid-size sedan...
...This new platform (Code: B563) will cater to higher segments and, according to company sources, the first model off of it will be a premium hatchback, positioned above the Figo, squarely going up against the hot-selling Hyundai i20 and Suzuki Baleno. This will be followed by a mid-size sedan, which again will sit above the Aspire and rival the Honda City, the segment king, and essentially fill the gap left by the Fiesta after it was discontinued in 2015.

“The Fiesta (B299 platform) was essentially a car made for Europe and the cost structure was too high for India and that made it unviable. The B563 platform allows us to be far more cost efficient which is the key to competitive pricing in India,” says a Ford official on condition of anonymity...
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One of the engine options on the upcoming B563 small car will most likely be the naturally-aspirated 1.5-liter "Dragon" Inline-3 engine mentioned in the article at the start of the thread. This engine will debut in the 2018 EcoSport for some global markets.

*In the 2018 Brazilian EcoSport, the new 1.5-liter Ti-VCT 3-cylinder engine makes 130CV (128hp) with gasoline and 137CV (135hp) with ethanol.
- https://br.motor1.com/news/174637/fo...udos-e-precos/
anyone have the bore/stroke of this and the Continental's 3.0v6?
I want to know if there could be ANY relationship between them

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anyone have the bore/stroke of this and the Continental's 3.0v6?
I want to know if there could be ANY relationship between them
Couldn't find the bore & stroke.
I did find this though it shows the naturally-aspirated 1.5 inline-3 uses a timing belt like the 1.0 EcoBoost.

- https://www.autossegredos.com.br/mar...res-cilindros/
I also noticed the intake is in front (facing the radiator) and the exhaust is at the back (facing the firewall) just like Ford's inline-4 engines. The older 1.0 EcoBoost and 1.0 Ti-VCT have it the other way around.

*The bigger Inline-4, V6 and V8 Ford engines use timing chains.

Anyone have a photo of the 1.5-liter Inline-3 EcoBoost engine of the 2018 Euro Fiesta ST?
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Off topic, but of interest for Asia Pacific market.............

Ford Lio Ho Motor Company Ltd. Key Developments to Invest USD 130 Million in Taiwan to Upgrade Production Processes
Feb 17 17

Ford Lio Ho Motor plans to invest TWD 4 billion (USD 130 million) in its plant in Chung Li to upgrade its production processes and assemble the Escort sedan. As part of a programme to improve the quality of Ford vehicles, the new investment will mainly involve the purchase of new equipment and introduction of intelligent production.

Source https://www.bloomberg.com/research/s...capId=32609528
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Off topic, but of interest for Asia Pacific market.............

Ford Lio Ho Motor Company Ltd. Key Developments to Invest USD 130 Million in Taiwan to Upgrade Production Processes
Feb 17 17

Ford Lio Ho Motor plans to invest TWD 4 billion (USD 130 million) in its plant in Chung Li to upgrade its production processes and assemble the Escort sedan. As part of a programme to improve the quality of Ford vehicles, the new investment will mainly involve the purchase of new equipment and introduction of intelligent production.

Source https://www.bloomberg.com/research/s...capId=32609528
First time the new Escort will be assembled outside mainland China. I wonder if it will be sold anywhere else.

I also noticed the company overview published by Bloomberg article...
"Ford Lio Ho Motor Co. operates as a subsidiary of Ford Motor Company of Canada, Limited."
Subsidiary of FoMoCo Canada, interesting.
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Ford Motor Company is in the process of developing a whole new range of models for the Indian market...
...The new hatchback...codename B563...is expected to be a premium offering by India standards, positioned above the current Figo.
In addition to the new hatchback, the company is reportedly working on a new midsize sedan** based on the same new, hacked-together platform...

**Midsize" in India is our sub-compact
just got a feeling there's more to this (& coming OUT of this) than Fomoco is admitting to

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