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2b2 06-27-2017 05:21 PM

USA caN'T have it - probably/afaik - (Fiesta)
 
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Ford developing a small car (B563) for India & emerging markets


subtitle: encyclopedic Euro-FIESTA review & first drive

Ford (new!) Fiesta review
CarMagazine.co.UK
- Tim Pollard, Editorial director - Published:Today 16:30


...Verdict
Ford has aced it...


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imho, posting more of the article could constitute 'cruel and unusual punishment'
so
I'll leave that to someone else

:angel

Assimilator 06-27-2017 09:56 PM

Re: USA caN'T have it - probably/afaik - (Fiesta)
 
Did you link the wrong article? It's a review of the old 'lipstick' Fiesta.

2b2 06-27-2017 11:05 PM

Re: USA caN'T have it - probably/afaik - (Fiesta)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Assimilator (Post 291345)
Did you link the wrong article? It's a review of the old 'lipstick' Fiesta.

yeah... http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/i...ies/unsure.gif not sure how that happened
TY :thumb: fixed now

AM222 06-28-2017 03:54 AM

Re: USA caN'T have it - probably/afaik - (Fiesta)
 
As far as the rest of the world is concerned, it's one of those "Now that we fixed it, we're not sure if we'll sell it to you" cases.

http://images.car.bauercdn.com/pagef..._2017_side.jpg

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Autocar Review
https://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sit...?itok=XbQC64RU
Quote:

This, Ford assures us, is the ‘all-new’ Fiesta. In truth, the interior and exterior are completely new, the body structure has been beefed up and the running gear overhauled

The overall theme for the new car was to improve the visual quality of the car outside, completely re-invent the interior, improve the overall quality (by polishing the fine details) as well as improving the in-cabin refinement and further improving the ride and handling.
Read More: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review...ta-2017-review

AM222 08-03-2017 01:13 PM

Ford developing a small car (B563) for India & emerging markets
 
Last year the news was Ford shelved its plans for a small car for developing markets... now it looks like the project is back On but this time it will be based on the existing B-platform instead of an all-new one.

Quote:

SCOOP! Ford developing premium hatch to take on i20 and Baleno
2nd Aug 2017 6:45 pm
Ford’s B563 platform for India will be the base for a new hatchback and mid-size sedan

Ford’s India operations are set to get a boost with a range of all-new models coming off a new platform that is being developed for India and other emerging markets.

This new platform (Code: B563) will cater to higher segments and, according to company sources, the first model off of it will be a premium hatchback, positioned above the Figo, squarely going up against the hot-selling Hyundai i20 and Suzuki Baleno. This will be followed by a mid-size sedan, which again will sit above the Aspire and rival the Honda City, the segment king, and essentially fill the gap left by the Fiesta after it was discontinued in 2015.

“The Fiesta (B299 platform) was essentially a car made for Europe and the cost structure was too high for India and that made it unviable. The B563 platform allows us to be far more cost efficient which is the key to competitive pricing in India,” says a Ford official on condition of anonymity.

However, it will be a while before B563 reaches showrooms. Both the hatchback and sedan are not expected before 2020. Also, they are being designed to meet future emission regulations which are set to get all the more stringent beyond 2023, when the Real Driving Emissions (RDE) test cycle is expected to be implemented. This means a new range of clean petrol and, in particular, diesel engines will have to be developed by then. To be future-proof, Ford will manufacture its state-of-the-art ‘Dragon’ family of small displacement petrol engines in India to power its future compact model range. In fact, the Dragon engine family hasn’t been launched yet and the global debut of this new powerplant will be in India in the coming weeks. Ford’s diesel strategy is not clear but it’s likely that when RDE kicks in the 1.5-litre DV5 diesel may be phased out as all small diesels will struggle to meet the tougher regulations.

For long, Ford has mulled various options to fill the gap in its portfolio above the Figo and Aspire. The American carmaker faced a major setback when an all-new compact car family based on a new platform (code: B500) was inexplicably shelved. The B500 was to be an all-new, grounds-up platform and would have had to rely on huge volumes to justify its massive development costs. Hence, China was expected to be the lead market for the B500 but the volume potential even in the world’s largest car market wasn’t encouraging. “The Chinese small car market was not showing any significant signs of growth as most buyers were shifting to SUVs,” according to a source.

The B563 platform is a more viable way forward as it is not a grounds-up, all-new architecture but a modified or upgraded version of the current B562 platform underpinning the Figo and Aspire. So, will the B562 and B563 platforms co-exist? Yes. The plan is to refresh the Figo and Aspire with extensive facelifts and reposition them a segment lower to minimize overlap with the more upmarket B563 products.

Ford clearly needs new products to boost its market share in India, which is hovering at a minuscule 3 percent. The Blue Oval has a long way to go before it can make a dent in this market, but after being at the crossroads for the past year or two, the B563 is finally a direction forward.
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Source: http://www.autocarindia.com/car-news...-baleno-405580

The terms "premium" and "mid-size" apply to local Indian classifications, this is technically a B-segment car that will take the place of the Fiesta which was dropped from the Indian Ford lineup in 2015.
http://cdni.autocarindia.com/Utils/I...=358&w=550&c=1

If it will spawn a sedan model, this could be the basis for a B-segment sedan for Southeast Asia.


PS: For reference these are the subcompacts it's expected to compete with (mentioned in the article).
Suzuki Baleno hatchback
https://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sit...?itok=h62L8zBu
Hyundai i20 hatchback
https://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sit...?itok=v0tVMltF
Honda City sedan
http://cdni.autocarindia.com/Utils/I...=358&w=640&c=1

Assimilator 08-03-2017 01:28 PM

Re: Ford developing a small car (B563) for India & emerging markets
 
Not quite the pull out we were expecting so that's good news!

AM222 08-03-2017 01:48 PM

Re: Ford developing a small car (B563) for India & emerging markets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Assimilator (Post 304489)
Not quite the pull out we were expecting so that's good news!

Yes, good news.
Hopefully it pushes through without issues. Ford really needs a B-segment car in Asia-Pacific specially in India and Southeast Asia.

2b2 08-03-2017 05:58 PM

Re: Ford developing a small car (B563) for India & emerging markets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AM222 (Post 304481)
Last year the news was Ford shelved its plans for a small car for developing markets... now it looks like the project is back On but this time it will be based on the existing B-platform instead of an all-new one...
Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOOP!
Ford developing premium hatch to take on i20 and Baleno
2nd Aug 2017 6:45 pm
Fordís B563 platform for India will be the base for a new hatchback and mid-size sedan..

http://cdni.autocarindia.com/Utils/I...=358&w=550&c=1

TY, AM222! :thumb:

just for the record, this new program-code: B563
was NOT in ANY info I saw about future plans released BEFORE Last November
:nerd:

2b2 08-04-2017 04:05 AM

Re: Ford developing a small car (B563) for India & emerging markets
 

AM222 08-04-2017 04:14 AM

Re: Ford developing a small car (B563) for India & emerging markets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2b2 (Post 304833)

I wonder which car this one is?
Could this be the refreshed Ka (Figo/ Ka Plus)?


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