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Sales of Camri and Accord from 2015-2017 dropped slightly less than 10% and Honda could have stemmed that tide with better incentives and something they avoid, fleet sales. Hardly dropping like a rock. Fusion over the same time span dropped 35%. Yes it is a downward trend but I think that rumors of the death of the sedan are slightly exaggerated.

Automakers certainly took advantage of the CAFE gas-guzzler exemption for trucks. Suddenly there was a whole new cohort addicted to the driving posture called "king-of-the-road." Just as suddenly it became almost impossible for sedan drivers to see the road ahead of the growing number of bricks out there. Many of those bought SUVs just so they could see the road ahead. Now those things are everywhere, bigger and heavier and guzzling more gas but still only carrying 1.2 persons on average.

I can only hope for big things from the Mach 1 and its siblings. SUVs are getting shorter and shorter as they evolve. I have a feeling that sedans will make a comeback. They may be taller and less sleek but this two-box stuff is boring as ****. Plus you can't hide stuff in the trunk of SUVs. You know, like dead bodies and contraband; the usual stuff.
2018 is a different story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...hows-suv-shift

Here are a few article highlights:

"Deliveries of the Accord dropped 11 percent in August and dragged on Hondaís total sales, which missed analystsí average estimate. The model named the North American Car of the Year in January has been no match for the sport utility vehicles that U.S. consumers are buying in droves. Sales of the sedan have now dropped for 10 straight months."

"Honda has company: Every major automaker is struggling mightily to move sedans during an era of booming demand for SUVs and pickups. Toyota Motor Corp.ís Camry sales cratered last month, dropping 19 percent and outweighing a strong showing for Highlander crossovers and Tacoma trucks."

"Passenger cars may have plunged to just 29 percent of the market in August, which would be an all-time low, according to Michelle Krebs, a senior analyst with AutoTrader. Five years ago, cars were 49 percent of industrywide deliveries, she said."
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About the Taurus, Ford introduced a new Taurus but decided not to bring it to N.A. Resulting in the same old car being in our market for too many years now. This is the same problem Ford had with this model a decade or so earlier. Ford lets an excellent product die on the vine instead of keeping it fresh. Then they can't understand why that product isn't moving off lots and meeting sales goals. Sure the sedan is having a sales decline, but this problem with the Taurus started when sedans were still selling well in N.A.

Ford/Lincoln/Mercury I love you and support you but you have to keep things fresh for the consumer. Including the dealership experience too. This is all IMHO of course and I only mentioned Mercury because I still miss her.
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About the Taurus, Ford introduced a new Taurus but decided not to bring it to N.A. Resulting in the same old car being in our market for too many years now. This is the same problem Ford had with this model a decade or so earlier. Ford lets an excellent product die on the vine instead of keeping it fresh. Then they can't understand why that product isn't moving off lots and meeting sales goals. Sure the sedan is having a sales decline, but this problem with the Taurus started when sedans were still selling well in N.A.

Ford/Lincoln/Mercury I love you and support you but you have to keep things fresh for the consumer. Including the dealership experience too. This is all IMHO of course and I only mentioned Mercury because I still miss her.
That was China-only it seems. Iím also dumbfounded why they never updated it, so it seems the plan to stop cars started way before Hackett.
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Just imagining the Mach1 to be slightly higher than a sedan but lower than the traditional SUV, with a coupe-ish, low slung Urus-like stance, a dollop of Mustang flavour, and a kickass electric drivetrain with decent mileage, all for US$50K(?).

Yep, screw the sedan.

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About the Taurus, Ford introduced a new Taurus but decided not to bring it to N.A. Resulting in the same old car being in our market for too many years now. This is the same problem Ford had with this model a decade or so earlier. Ford lets an excellent product die on the vine instead of keeping it fresh.
D3 sedans never sold well, even when they debuted. Five Hundred, Montego, Taurus, Sable, MKS - all flops from the start. I have only driven one D3 - a 2007 Five Hundred. I found it less refined than some of the Focuses I have rented.

Fusion is another story, and it's a shame Fusion wasn't drastically redesigned for the 2018 model year. It's a shame the Fusion had recalls and quality problems when it debuted in 2013 also.

Don't see myself ever buying an electric car or a crossover. I am retiring from my job in 18 months and my 2010 Grand Marquis currently with 72,000 miles should last me through 2030.
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D3 sedans never sold well, even when they debuted. Five Hundred, Montego, Taurus, Sable, MKS - all flops from the start. I have only driven one D3 - a 2007 Five Hundred. I found it less refined than some of the Focuses I have rented.

Fusion is another story, and it's a shame Fusion wasn't drastically redesigned for the 2018 model year. It's a shame the Fusion had recalls and quality problems when it debuted in 2013 also.

Don't see myself ever buying an electric car or a crossover. I am retiring from my job in 18 months and my 2010 Grand Marquis currently with 72,000 miles should last me through 2030.
Can't forget Flex, MKT, Freestyle, and Taurus X. Looking back, it's pretty insane there were 9 out of 10 that flopped on that platform.
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But reliability was insane. How did they do so well in that area on that platform, during the 2005-2008 period?

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Those model year cars had air conditioner compressors that would not last past 75,000 miles.
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Can't forget Flex, MKT, Freestyle, and Taurus X. Looking back, it's pretty insane there were 9 out of 10 that flopped on that platform.
I still love the Flex though. I've actually considered buying one a few times, even though I dont need to extra room.
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I still love the Flex though. I've actually considered buying one a few times, even though I dont need to extra room.
Me too. It's a stylish utility. The Flex actually brought in new customers for Ford, especially in California.
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