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NAVI: complain/critique/suggest/chop/love

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the all gray (sorta Ascot) really Does class it up
& that picture SHOWS the wheelarches - which I usually want played-down but they're NEEDed here...

...I want more sculpting around the rear quarter
as well as
not so tall grille + more lower-fascia "stuff" - not happy with HLs yet

OH!... just now noticed what looks like *my* original StarShadow "carved-billet" grille...
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Re: NAVI: complain/CRITIQUE/SUGGEST/chop/love

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-- Likes:
I am glad to see the full width tail light is still there
Nice to see blue on the interior again
-- Dislikes:
Tablet style nav screen (they can integrate a large screen into the dash and not make it look cheap, see the S Class)
Grille might be a tad bit too large
-- Other:
Unfortunately we don't even know squat going forward with this because this is a really over the top concept. The interior will look very different IMO.
No idea on powertrain all they say is 400 HP and I can sympathize with wanting a V8 since that is a status symbol HOWEVER going back to a V8 at this point may seem like a step back no? Should there be a higher HP model though?
I am getting a very strong Range Rover vibe...
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I hope that pop up nav screen is NOT there in the production model. I was happy Ford and Lincoln were not going that route and still doing the in dash design. To me it just looks cheap sticking up out of the dash like that.
I said in another thread= imho they "theatricalized"** the production styling for the concept...not quite to a caricature degree but
that simplified/made things less subtle than I expect/hope for the production Navi

I also hope the interior carries over all the FEEL if not all details(of course)
imho there's room on the dash for my rant about a large screen that's HALF(?) buried most of the time, leaving a wide-not-tall section &
then raises when needed (prolley won't try chopping that...)

oh...I've started (more) ranting about the gen2 3.5T having a high-output version with 525-550hp
& std at least 440hp
those who think those're too much, check out the little Alfa Guilia, imho


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I think you'll see a bit more in the way of sheetmetal creases toward the bottom of the door (where the gullwing and step separate) in the production model.
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It's not really just the tapered roof wings. It the roof combined with the blacked out pillars COMBINED with the uprake of the bottom of the rear bumper. All those things combined is what leads to the Range Roverness.

...the exterior design of the concept...it's so over the top...only maybe 20% seems logical
I made small changes to the rocker trim (needs more imho) and tried to add a "fullness" above the rear wheel to the FLAT full-length crease
+ wonder IF, when we can see-THRU the C-to-D-pillar window...
IF those differences will 'bring back' more SUVness that Rover-ness?

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...You can't call this "Quiet Luxury" and have gullwing doors and a toboggan sliding out of the side...
...of the major outlets are talking...

That being said, I've heard the production version is impressive (not over the top like this concept).
If I can akin the concept debuts of the Continental and Navigator to **shows/movies...
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AutoVerdict...In person the Navigator Concept is certainly a dramatic sight to see and not exactly that we’d call “quiet” by any stretch...
guess I've got a diff idea of Quiet:
- doors silently swinging up
- steps gliding down
- serene interior ... with the silent chrome ripples


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Re: NAVI: complain/critique/suggest/chop/LOVE

Love the horizontal 'banding'(ripples) in the clear section of the TLs



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...just noticed the 'stuck-on' nature of the licenseplate
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Re: NAVI: complain/critique/suggest/chop/love

I like the idea of the intercom, so the passengers in the third row do not have to raise their voices to be heard by the first row.

I would also like to see the production version to have the larger rear side doors like the Continental. Along with allowing the second row seats to quickly/electrically move forward enough for third row access behind the second row seat.



Then I would like the Navigator L to have even larger rear doors while adding the additional inches between the wheels, while keeping it's rear proportions behind the rear wheel, along with max cargo capacity.

This would also offer an even easier pass through from the rear door to the third row.

Unlike the current version and Escalade with the disproportionate rear overhang.



Similar to the Range Rover LWB where the additional inches are ahead of the rear wheels.

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I also would like to see the New Navigator offer a 30 EV mile battery pack, inductive charging along with solar panels built into the large roof area.

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I would also like to see the New Navigator usher in a new larger motorized, retractable touch screen for Lincoln models. Helping to differentiate Lincoln more from Ford brand models.

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Re: NAVI: complain/critique/SUGGEST/chop/love

^ & ^^^ totally agree about the screen
and SOMEthing for the doors/wlb

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I also would like to see the New Navigator offer a 30 EV mile battery pack, inductive charging along with solar panels built into the large roof area.
/but
I wonder if the Navi(or Exped) could get hybridized before/without the F-150 doing it?
Sure there wouldn't anywhere Near the volume but
they do have completely different rear structures, right?
OR
would they be better off to just concentrate on Aviator/Explorer??
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Re: NAVI: Complain/CRITIQUE/suggest/chop/love

the Lincoln Now site that Jose posted has a Lot of design info (& 'spin')
so far
this is the only HL foto that *conveys* their message afasI'm concerned
(( sorta like the wheels that only work up close imho ))

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Re: NAVI: complain/critique/suggest/chop/love

Looks great with less rounded waterfall grille

sometimes I think they just need to back to classic Lincoln's grilles
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Re: NAVI: complain/critique/suggest/chop/love

I was also hoping that the grill design for the CUV/SUVs would be similar, but unique. I'm not sure what I would do differently, but I like what Rick drew.


I am not a fan of the wheels on this or the Continental, and hope they both offer a wide variety of choices.


Everything else is exactly what Lincoln needs. Yes, it does have Range Rover similarities. It may appear less original, but sometimes you have to go with what works.
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