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03-01-2018 07:10 AM
falcon lover
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

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Originally Posted by 2b2 View Post
I firmly believe that what you want^, Bloggin will NEVER happen, canNOT happen...sorta:
That the only safe way for driver-less vehicles, is to build a central-processing-controller CITY/highway &
OutLaw any humans from driving within those environs.
So
you'll HAVE TO drive in rural/ex-burbs but nowhere else.
Everything not forbidden will be mandatory
& vice-versa.

You are rigth. When (and where) autonomous vehicles will be approved , the vehicles driven by humans need to be banned...
02-28-2018 09:45 PM
2b2
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

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Originally Posted by Bloggin View Post
...I want to sit in the drivers seat of my Model 3, have it drive me to work if I choose to, park itself at work or at home. Pick me up when I am ready, and I drive myself or let my car drive me where I want to go. Ii get to choose and ALWAYS have the ability to take control. I want it to drive me out in the evening, and take me home if I get sleepy. I want it to drive the long hours on a road trip, or handle the rush hour traffic, while I get to dive the curves on a scenic route.
I firmly believe that what you want^, Bloggin will NEVER happen, canNOT happen...sorta:
That the only safe way for driver-less vehicles, is to build a central-processing-controller CITY/highway &
OutLaw any humans from driving within those environs.
So
you'll HAVE TO drive in rural/ex-burbs but nowhere else.
Everything not forbidden will be mandatory
& vice-versa.
02-28-2018 09:07 PM
Bloggin
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

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Originally Posted by Assimilator View Post
There are very different approaches to Autonomous Driving tech, Tesla does not use LIDAR and Musk firmly believes LIDAR is a dead-end while the rest of the industry is very dependent on LIDAR in their designs. It's not exactly clear how Tesla intends to go fully autonomous without LIDAR however, right now it's mostly just an advanced cruise control system. The problem with LIDAR is that until it's solid state, it can't be well integrated into a car without the absurd top-hat and the enormous energy consumption from that type of system. All I personally want right now is what Tesla is doing but nobody else is able to deliver it, instead they are going for Full Autonomy.
Exactly.....it's like the auto industry forgot to ask consumers what they wanted. Or maybe they did and decided their focus was on commercial use, and put all their development dollars there. But still forgetting that consumers still don't want to get into a vehicle, alone, with no driver, controlled by software, with no steering wheel or peddles, that will be on the road with other sometimes crazy drivers. However, AutoPilot and SuperCruise are more desirable autonomy tech options for consumers to give up a bit of control as they feel comfortable, and take back control when not.

And yes, Tesla has done a great job with AutoPilot offering enough autonomy to be useful, and enough driver control to be comfortable.

I want to sit in the drivers seat of my Model 3, have it drive me to work if I choose to, park itself at work or at home. Pick me up when I am ready, and I drive myself or let my car drive me where I want to go. Ii get to choose and ALWAYS have the ability to take control. I want it to drive me out in the evening, and take me home if I get sleepy. I want it to drive the long hours on a road trip, or handle the rush hour traffic, while I get to dive the curves on a scenic route.
02-28-2018 04:56 PM
Assimilator
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

There are very different approaches to Autonomous Driving tech, Tesla does not use LIDAR and Musk firmly believes LIDAR is a dead-end while the rest of the industry is very dependent on LIDAR in their designs. It's not exactly clear how Tesla intends to go fully autonomous without LIDAR however, right now it's mostly just an advanced cruise control system. The problem with LIDAR is that until it's solid state, it can't be well integrated into a car without the absurd top-hat and the enormous energy consumption from that type of system. All I personally want right now is what Tesla is doing but nobody else is able to deliver it, instead they are going for Full Autonomy.
02-28-2018 04:36 PM
SP1966
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

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Originally Posted by Bloggin View Post
Clearly for autonomous vehicles to work long term, all vehicles will need to share the same self driving tech, software and network. This is a safety issue where the expectations of the consumer will be that they all work exactly the same. Can you imagine the rental car nightmares when rental cars from each manufacturer has a different autonomous software package and behaves differently, even differently from the consumers own vehicle. How scary and frustrating that will be.
I don't at all see all vehicles using the same software as necessary or even likely. I do expect that as the technology matures there will be laws regarding how they operate, possibly including a requirement that they cooperate wirelessly, but manufacturers are going to have their own implementations. I see it playing out much like it does in the tech world where standards are established, and individual companies develop their own products meet, and sometimes exceed those standards.

Any attempt to force a single implementation would have to happen now, and be financed by governments. Once the tech matures and all these companies have invested in their own tech you're simply not going to be able to pick one, force all other companies to use that while thumbing your nose at their development expenses.
02-28-2018 08:23 AM
falcon lover
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

Go outside the house in a cold winter nigth to pick the pizza from the car? Ummmmmm...

Where is the phone number of Pizza Hut?....

02-27-2018 11:36 PM
2b2
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

02-27-2018 11:06 PM
Bloggin
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

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Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
The duplication of investment dollars in autonomous tech is insane, but competition is never a bad thing IMO.
Clearly for autonomous vehicles to work long term, all vehicles will need to share the same self driving tech, software and network. This is a safety issue where the expectations of the consumer will be that they all work exactly the same. Can you imagine the rental car nightmares when rental cars from each manufacturer has a different autonomous software package and behaves differently, even differently from the consumers own vehicle. How scary and frustrating that will be.
02-27-2018 11:01 PM
Bloggin
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

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Originally Posted by Assimilator View Post
It's mostly a proof of concept than a real business plan, they aren't getting into the Pizza delivery business but it's a scalable real world example to test out Autonomous technology...or to at least showcase that Ford is working on it. They just had another press-push today to highlight the work they are doing, focusing now on Atlanta since it's the most congested city in the US which is where Ford wants to test the tech next.

It's amazing how many companies are duplicating research on autonomous technology right now.
Interesting...I guess since actual consumers are not too interested in actually riding in driverless car, Hackett included, it's just driving around merchandise. I think it's going to be a long, long time before consumers are willing to sit in a car without a steering wheel or brake/accelerator peddles and give up ALL control of the vehicle. I think the race to autonomy should take a back seat to the race to full EV vehicles. 'Some' automakers just might be putting the horse before the cart.

Just doing the math, offering full EV drivetrains for commercial and consumers offers greater drivability and financial benefits than autonomy with old school ICE or old school hybrid where both still brings with it the cost of maintenance and additional design/manufacturing costs.

Tesla has the right plan....offer full EV technology and let the consumer benefit from that, then add autonomy and slowly allow the customer to acclimate. But I do understand the ICE manufacturers have ICE models to sell today, but new models should be full EV so the consumer has that benefit, then add autonomy as consumers gain a comfort level or actually ask for it.

Another interesting thought......are consumers actually asking for autonomy?
02-27-2018 10:06 PM
SP1966
Re: Dominos & Ford: Self Driving Pizza Delivery

Quote:
Originally Posted by Assimilator View Post
It's mostly a proof of concept than a real business plan, they aren't getting into the Pizza delivery business but it's a scalable real world example to test out Autonomous technology...or to at least showcase that Ford is working on it. They just had another press-push today to highlight the work they are doing, focusing now on Atlanta since it's the most congested city in the US which is where Ford wants to test the tech next.

It's amazing how many companies are duplicating research on autonomous technology right now.
The duplication of investment dollars in autonomous tech is insane, but competition is never a bad thing IMO.
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