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01-22-2018 12:31 AM
Bloggin
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

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Originally Posted by AM222 View Post
Regarding Ford's electrified future vehicles... I think most people want to see something, like a concept car that previews what they are working on. Basically assurance that the car company is actually working on the future model they've been talking about.
Example VW I.D. Crozz Concept
Ditto. It's 2018 and Ford is still taking about what they are 'planning', with no concept. And it didn't go unnoticed that the initial 'plan' was for a 'small' SUV offering 300+ EV miles, which has not changed to a low volume, speciality Performance SUV by 2020. That's a 3 year window for a limited volume, speciality model which still indicates that Ford is still unsure what they are doing. While at the same time ALL of the models shown at the show were a 'refresh' of models in production for several years. Which makes me wonder what is Ford actually doing??

Navigator and Expedition that are many years past due are in production. There is a NEW Focus coming in 2019 and Explorer and 'Aviator' coming in 2020, but that's a huge gap in new models for Ford and Lincoln.

This show 'should' have offered the EV concept showcasing the platform, motors, along with news about a charging infrastructure and battery manufacturing. But no...
01-22-2018 12:01 AM
germeezy1
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

I for one am very excited about a dual injection 5.2 cross plane crank with a TVS R2650. Of course my curiosity is focused on the internals of the engine, and the aftermarket power potential.
01-17-2018 03:40 PM
2b2
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

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Originally Posted by wingsnut View Post
Yeah, it has been a while for a good concept from Ford. Remember the EVOS? That would be a good name for an EV as well...
esp if it was autonoMOUSE = EV OS, as in Operating something
...too bad true AI is impossible *AND* the [neural networks] required will be city/highway-wide in order to work,
with-including the DUMB SpacePods
01-17-2018 03:21 PM
wingsnut
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

Yeah, it has been a while for a good concept from Ford. Remember the EVOS? That would be a good name for an EV as well.


But back to my point about concept timing, who decides what is too soon? Personally, I like the 1 year timeline. That works great. But then again, I would love to see an EV concept today, even if not available for 2-3 years. So yeah, canít make everyone happy.
01-17-2018 01:25 PM
AM222
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

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Originally Posted by wingsnut View Post
They announced a performance BEV, and some complained nothing is in the works and others will complain why do we have to wait.
Regarding Ford's electrified future vehicles... I think most people want to see something, like a concept car that previews what they are working on. Basically assurance that the car company is actually working on the future model they've been talking about.
Example VW I.D. Crozz Concept


I know Ford still does it but in recent years they've only been making concepts for Lincoln.
01-16-2018 09:09 PM
joseodiaga4
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

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Originally Posted by wingsnut View Post
Yup, if you give them news too soon you are damned, and if you give them nothing until just before, they crave something and complain nothing is coming

They announced a performance BEV, and some complained nothing is in the works and others will complain why do we have to wait.



---Insert mega face palm here---
well, it seems Ford doesn't find the right "timming" to do it, that is why there are some complaints
01-16-2018 08:49 PM
wingsnut
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

Yup, if you give them news too soon you are damned, and if you give them nothing until just before, they crave something and complain nothing is coming

They announced a performance BEV, and some complained nothing is in the works and others will complain why do we have to wait.



---Insert mega face palm here---
01-16-2018 08:33 PM
Assimilator
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

Ford typically like to show their all-new designs and nameplates really early. I suspect it's part of their long awareness building campaigns since they've always done it this way. EcoSport and Ranger are the latest examples of this, they announced the Ranger a year ago, so collectivley it will be over 2 years before it will actually be available for purchase. EcoSport debuted a year before sale and was even featured in a movie that premiered WAY before it was even available. It also helps Ford stem some customer churn if their competitors offer something they can't currently compete with but plan to soon. Alternatively, you don't want to give too much advance notice for MCEs or you choke existing sales.

Ford continues that tradition, by announcing vehicles earlier and earlier, Bronco was announced over 3 years before it's availability and of course we've already heard about their EV plans going into next decade. The 2nd Gen Raptor was revealed at the Autoshow a full 2.5 years before they actually went on sale (Jan 2015 - June 2017). The Model 3 was revealed too close to production by Ford standards, under 2 years from debut to sale. Only difference is that Ford usually meets its targets, but Ford and Tesla are generally the most guilty when it comes to ridiculous lead times. That's why a Ford watcher has far more sympathy (or should!) with Tesla wait times than the average person who expects cars to be available as soon as they are announced.
01-16-2018 08:14 PM
wingsnut
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

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Originally Posted by rmc523 View Post
It may be tolerable, but isn't ideal, IMO.
Clearly only some products get the year long delay.

But you and I both know, people would then complain if they had to wait another year to hear anything.


Damned if they do, and you know the rest.
01-16-2018 07:13 PM
gjrip
Re: 2019 Ford Mustang GT500

I'll be there this weekend so I kinda hope they screw the early show-goers lol.
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